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Oh, yeah. She was like a cartoon. Adam Curry. It's
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Thursday, October 15, 2026. This is your award-winning Kimo Nation
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Media Assassination Episode 1912. This is No Agenda. Coming to
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you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, once
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again in Fredericksburg, Texas. It is time for another No
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Agenda with another guest co-host, this time in the studio.
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He's here for the second time. His name is Matt
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Long, and we will welcome him in 96 seconds from
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now. Stand by. We'll be right back. Ladies and gentlemen,
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from the Texas Hill Country, by way of 1776, we're
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going to be A lightening - No, no. back to
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show the tackles. say we don't love you Matt oh
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man I'm telling you what that that's that was amazing
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I will have to go home and play it at
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half speed to understand the lyrics. To understand the lyrics.
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To understand the lyrics. To understand the lyrics. To understand
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the lyrics. To understand the lyrics. Yeah, I know. Yeah,
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you know, Led Zeppelin always, you know, sang their songs
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slowly. So I could never get into that genre of
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music where you had more than, you know, two words
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in five seconds. Let me put some honor on Matt's
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name. Matt Long. Matt Long is the host of the
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Matt Long Show weekdays on Hill Country Patriot FM. What
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is the frequency of that? 104.3 and 102.1. Yeah, I
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listen online, man. I stream it. Of course. Because whenever
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I listen to it here over the air, it melds
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in with some other station. What is that other station?
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Is that from Bernie or somewhere? Well, if it's in
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the morning, it's Atmospheric, and it's one of the Mexican
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stations. Yeah, that's what it is. It's the Mexican stations,
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and they just… Just ride over the top of us
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on a regular basis. So Matt does his show from
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a shipping container at Hill Patriot FM, which is love.
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I mean, I just love that setup. I've been on
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the show several times and, you know, recently coming on
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Monday mornings to talk about stuff. Although, luckily, you've upgraded
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to a clean feed, which is nice. It's really good.
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I have. I've impressed everybody at the station with clean
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feed. And so they're all, someone even thought I had
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you in the studio last time you were on. There
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you go. It probably sounded better. It probably did. Yeah,
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Noah and I are studio. But, you know, I'd like
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to say something to our producers. You know, last time
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I was, the first time I was the No Agenda
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co-host here, I looked at my numbers And I don't
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look at my numbers on my podcast Rarely The Matt
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Long Show It's a daily radio program I take out
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all the commercials And put in a little 15 second
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bump in there And uh And so, yeah, you get
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to hear me say, we'll be right back after this
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short break. Bump, bump, bump. You know? And so anyway,
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I checked out my numbers that day after I got
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back from the studio here. And... They had jumped significantly,
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like a bunch. And so I figured, well, okay, I'll
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get a nice little one-time bump. Let's see what happens.
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Well, I've been watching it now for four weeks. It
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kept that big bump for about a week, and then
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it went down a little bit, but it's studied off.
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Beautiful. And so all of you who came over from
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No Agenda were interested in the Christian Texas politics. That's
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it. No, those got to be Texans. That's it. Adam,
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they got to be Texans coming over there. I mean,
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if you're from New Jersey, what do you care about
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Texas politics? Hey, hey, easy on. Jersey okay I lived
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there for 12 years Jersey boys is real man careful
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we'll have to take you out back okay Texas boy
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so I just wanted to say thank you and also
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the art I don't think anybody I don't think everybody's
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anybody's ever created a piece of art for me like
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that like the album what do you call it yeah
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the album art the album art well every one that
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had my name on it um i printed uh had
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a four by four glossy print made in fact i
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have them here there's nine of them oh and uh
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and and then i made out of my four favorites
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i made a 16 by 16 poster oh wow And
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so – but my goal is to – I'd love
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to get a signature on these works of art. Oh,
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from the artists themselves. From the artists themselves. So I'm
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going to – I mean it may be impossible. I
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don't know. Maybe one or two of them will show
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up at the No Agenda meetup. This was going to
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be my next honor – honorific to throw on your
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name here, which is Matt and his beautiful wife, Gail.
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I would just say Gail and then Matt. Let's just
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put it in the right order. Yeah. I have organized
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the Fredericksburg No Agenda Meetup since inception at Bar 1776.
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That's J6 or Jenny's place. And we got another one
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coming up this Saturday. Excited about it. I'll be running
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a little late. I have two speaking engagements this Saturday.
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Are you speaking as Matt or as Ben? Both. Okay.
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Let me just set it up, Matt. Okay. For those
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of you who missed it the last time, Matt is...
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is I would say state famous, but probably world famous
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for his – Reenactment? Reenactment is the right word, yes,
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of Benjamin Franklin. Matt knows more about Benjamin Franklin than
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anybody I've ever met. And he looks – when he
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gets into his wig and his spectacles and his outfits
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– It's my hair. Oh, that's right. I straightened my
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hair. You just straightened your hair, right. That's right. And
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shaved my headline back. Listen, this is dedication. You're dedicated,
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man. Yeah, dedicated. He puts the suit on. He's got
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the shoes with the buckles. And you got a cane,
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too? Oh, I've got the gold cap cane. You got
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the cane. And you go to the Capitol in Austin.
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And you walk around and you give long-term care. lawmakers
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crap. You're like, hey, you're unconstitutional. Get out of here.
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You whack them with the cane. That's right. Absolutely. So
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you did one as you and one as Ben? Yeah.
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Blessed Saturday morning is the men's prayer group at Bridge,
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and I'm going to be speaking to them as Matt.
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When is it? This Saturday. Is that this Saturday? It's
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a prayer group, not just a church. Oh, not the
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regular men's? The men's group. No, we have a Saturday,
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once a month, second Saturday men's prayer group. That Jeff
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McLarty puts on. I didn't know that. And so, yeah,
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it's really good. Do I need a secret handshake or
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decoder ring? No, you just need to show up, get
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on the list. And I think it's the second Saturday.
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Is this the second Saturday of the month? You're on
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the list. Okay. Yeah, it will be the second. And
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then I'm going out to Patriot Academy for – the
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Boy Scouts what's the replacement group for the Boy Scouts
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scouts I think is young life or boys life or
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so anyway there's a yeah there is a so there's
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no longer Boy Scouts in the now there is Boy
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Scouts of America includes girls which is whatever whatever whatever
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but a number of years ago there was Chris I'm
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a scientist who organized a counter scout group, and it's
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called Boys Life or something like that. You should probably
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know before you go talk to them. Before I go,
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yes. Prep a little. I've got it in my notes
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here, but that's going to be out at Patriot Academy,
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and yes, I'll be going in my – Full garb
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out there to talk to young men and boys out
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there, and that's early afternoon. All right. So, yeah, it'll
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be a busy day. So maybe when I get to
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the meetup, I may just sit quietly in a corner.
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My tongues and lips may just be worn out. But
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you'll be dressed as Ben? Ben? I don't know. Actually,
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yes. That might be kind of cool. It is because
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I'm not going to have time for a costume change.
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Yeah, we got lots of people who want to take
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a picture with Benjamin Franklin. That's awesome. All right, he'll
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be there. I do autographs for five bucks. That's not
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true. He does them for free. How many people are
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coming? Do you know? To the meetup? Yeah. I do
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not know. I never checked the RSVPs. Okay. All right.
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I imagine it's going to be a whole lot like
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the others. We usually have, what, 30 to 40 to
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50 maybe? Something like that, yeah. 30 to 50 that
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come and go. I want to encourage people to spend
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both nights this weekend. Yeah, that would be good for
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Jenny, too. It would really help. She could really use
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some of that business. And my offer still stands that
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if you stay both nights, you will have some of
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my jellies and jams at your breakfast. Matt brought me
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some. Yeah, you brought me another jar. This was peach.
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Yeah, this was peach. Man, and that stuff is so
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good. good and i say tina have some she's like
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it's all sugar i said well of course that's how
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you make it what do you expect not just peach
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there's sugar in there yeah that's the whole point like
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i've i got my sourdough you know i got my
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butter and then like oh yeah it's so good it's
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awesome man uh Another reason I'm so happy you're here
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is you're a fellow vaper. There's nothing like just vaping
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away in this studio. I love that. It seems to
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be a lost art form. I mean, does anyone vape
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anymore? Are we the last of the Mohicans? We might
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be, unless you're, you know, an illegal high schooler out
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in the back vaping. With the blueberry vapes. Those are
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no good. Those are no good. You know, I bought
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some cartridges from a company recently, and they sent me
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a free bottle of some insanely juicy berry thing that
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I will never, ever, ever use. And I didn't know
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whether just to send it back or – It's like
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– What do you – what do you have? Do
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you have – Is nicotine in there? Yeah. I think
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I'm at 12 milligrams of nicotine. Not the 18 is
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for the big boys. I'm at... I think I'm at
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four or six. I'm pretty low. I'm a micro doser,
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man. Yeah, and no flavors. I just want tobacco taste.
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That's what I'm after. That's what I'm after. Well, I'm
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also glad you're here because you already know what's going
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on with me and with the show. And. And I'm
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happy to be able to look at you when I
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go through this because you're a brother in Christ. You
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understand what I'm saying here. And we'll get right into
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the media deconstruction in a moment. But a lot of
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you probably heard on We Get to Do This. October
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29th will be my last No Agenda show. And... There's
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a lot of reasons for that, but this has really
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been on my heart for a long time. And so
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I want to make sure that NOA GENERATION hears what's
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going on. And of course, it started three and a
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half years ago with me getting saved. And all of
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a sudden, I started seeing the world in a whole
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new light. and not just on the show, but everywhere.
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But in particular, you know, what I'd been doing for,
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at that point, 17 years, I realized it's not just
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Soros is not just big pharma and military industrial complex
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politicians bankers Muslims tech executives there is absolute true good
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and evil in the world and I realize God is
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real and so is Satan and so. That we don't
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have political problems. We have a spiritual problem in the
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world. So it was – and I know a lot
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of people picked up on it. It became increasingly difficult
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for me to really stick with the format of No
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Agenda, which by design is cynical and mocking. It really
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– wasn't who I was anymore and I found it
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so hard to break the format. Probably not even possible.
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Of course, John kept the balance that a lot of
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people wanted. He would slap me back in my Christian
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corner, but it was not as fulfilling to me to
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do this type of format as a believer. So, I
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realized that I had a new mission, a commission, so
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to speak, to go out and make disciples. And in
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the past couple of years, I started teaching. a company
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that helps Christian radio stations get online, but probably more
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exciting is it turns churches into local radio stations. That's
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the Godcaster. And we've set up, you know, multiple of
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these hyper-local radio stations and have over 300 Christian radio
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stations who are trying to reach people. A new audience
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and obviously their transmitters and sticks in the air are
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not fulfilling that duty anymore. But also we get to
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do this with Pastor Jimmy. I've got my book that
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will be about a look back at my life based
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upon how I view the world now and other projects.
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And. I really wanted to, you know, I was getting
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ready to, probably a year and a half ago, I
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was getting ready to talk to John about this and
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say, you know, I've got to make a transition. You
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know, he was also getting into 80, which I knew,
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no one else knew. And so I wanted to talk
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to him about it and see, you know, how we
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could make this a smooth transition. And then all of
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a sudden, you know. Double bypass. The whole world is
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getting rocked. And I was not going to discuss it
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with him. I was like, okay. And I talked to
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Tina. Tina, of course, knows all about this. I'm like,
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when he's strong again, I'll bring it up. I don't
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want to rock the boat. And, you know, he was
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coming back. His voice was strong. He was about ready
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to move back into the house. And God clearly had
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other plans. Um, So when John died, honestly, so did
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the show as we know it. I mean, the show
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is, yes, it's media deconstruction, but listening to a show
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like No Agenda requires two people who have a relationship.
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And we had... a relationship there's no doubt about it
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you know our relationship was entirely unique um
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It was so unique, in fact, that when we would
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meet in person, the last time I met him was,
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well, last time I met him was, you know, this
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year. He was in a little urn. It wasn't quite
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as fun as previous meetings. But maybe seven years ago.
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Yeah. It was awkward. It was like we had nothing
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to say to each other. And, you know, Tina was
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like, what is up with you guys? Well, we talked
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to each other seven and a half hours a week.
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You know, it's like we had nothing to say other
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than how you doing. Yeah, I'm good. So that type
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of relationship, you can't. You can't fabricate it. You can't
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make it up on the fly. You can't patch it
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up with somebody new. I mean, we actually were talking
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months on Skype when I was living in London and
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he was in San Francisco and months of just talking,
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talking through media and differences in newspapers before we ever
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hit record. And Actually, I mentioned this on We Get
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to Do This. I was listening to Chuck Lorre, the
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famous showrunner, producer of some just amazing sitcoms. And I
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really was ready to hate this guy because I heard
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of some of the things he said, accepting an award
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in California. Yeah. I was, you know, he really knows
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how to make television. You know, he did Roseanne. He
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did Two and a Half Men, Big Bang Theory. I
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mean, the whole multi-camera sitcom, which is kind of a
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dying art. And, you know, he said something which really
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rang true for me is that, you know, People want
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to they feel part of that family. They feel part
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of the relationship that the characters have amongst each other.
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And I think that's what no agenda had above all.
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And, you know, 50 percent of the air staff just
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fell away. And I have great time with the guest
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co-host for the past few months. But, you know, with
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John's passing, half of a business partnership also died. And
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that really complicates things. I can never have another true
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equal partnership in this vehicle because I can't offer the
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other half to anybody. Yeah. So I will complete our
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19 years plus one extra show on the 29th. And
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what will happen with no agenda is still being discussed.
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Of course, I'll keep you updated. But after the 29th,
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I'll be focusing on my kingdom work. We get to
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do this Godcaster, all the other things. And, you know,
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I'm sure I'll have a lot more to say on
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that last show because there are just so many people.
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And this is literally one of those times where, you
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know, the award show, there's so many people, there's too
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many people to mention. It's literally thousands and thousands of
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people. who I'd have to thank. So we'll get to
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that. But we're going to finish strong here. And I'm
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62. I really want to finish strong in life. It's
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too many people have been falling down around me, so
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I need to make this change. I want to make
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this change. I'm excited to make this change. And I
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thank you, Matt, for being here for this day. It
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makes me feel a little bit sturdier to have you
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across from me. Well, thank you. Folks, I really highly
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suggest you go pick up that We Get to Do
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This episode from yesterday because Adam unpacks that so well,
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his decision-making process and what he went through. emotionally, spiritually,
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what he's gone through in these decisions. And he was
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like... Yeah, I'm sorry. it also started me looking at
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the phases of my life, areas that I've had to
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get out of and get in of and out of
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and it made me kind of reflect on some of
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those moves I've made in my life and I just
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think that God's in control of all of this. Amen.
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And our future is where he wants us to go.
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And, yeah, it's a little – but it is a
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little freaky. It is. It is. I mean, especially 20
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years, man. It's over 19 years. It's just like, wow,
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it's been quite the ride. It really has been. I
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mean, have you been married that long ever at once?
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Yes. John had witnessed all three of my marriages. Thank
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you. Actually, yeah, it rivals my first marriage. But, you
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know, Tina will go long beyond that because we're going
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to be together forever. But, yeah, it's been an incredible,
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incredible ride. Yeah. Speaking of things you know about God,
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politics, Tallarico, just that we'll start off in Texas because
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this is what you know, he did his town hall
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on Wednesday turns out he wasn't in a mental institution
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turns out maybe well well here here's the man himself
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so I have one more question for you on this
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because there's been a lot of wild speculation anybody on
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social media has seen it right about about the flu
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so can you just clear it up for people Was
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the flu the only reason you were out? And is
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there anything you'd do differently now when you look back
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at the nine days that you weren't on the trail?
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Are you saying that's a laugh till? I'm saying that's
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a laugh till. Chuckle, chuckle, chuckle. So you really think
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he was out for other reasons than the flu? I
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don't know. It could have been, you know, anything. It
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could have been a dead boy or a living dead.
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dog we don't know what something happened during that week
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um but yeah it's uh there was some certainly strange
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yeah Let's see. And you were out. And is there
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anything you do differently now when you look back at
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the nine days that you weren't on the trail? No.
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I think the responsible thing to do when you have
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something like the flu is to stay at home and
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not get other people sick. Now, I will say that
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people... I think people also accepted the COVID vaccine into
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their life. They have gotten a very bad flu this
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year, which, as you recall, was non-existent during COVID. Oh,
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yeah. No flu during COVID. Just as a little side
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note there. So it could have been that he was
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– he seems like a – Like one who accepted
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the vaccine into his life. Probably in every backup and
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probably every brand just to cover himself. Or his mama
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made him do it because, you know, he lives in
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his mom's basement. Okay. And I was able to work
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remotely from home. But you're right. I mean, that decision
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to stay home for a week. sent my opponent and
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his conspiracy theorists spiraling. I opened up social media and
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learned that I apparently had dropped out of the race
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and had flown to a mental hospital in Ohio, that
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I had died. This is crazy. These false claims got
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millions of views online. They did. And this is an
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example of what I call the rage economy. Conspiracy theorists
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can post anything they want on the internet. They get
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clicks. The billionaires who own these platforms get rich, we
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all get angry, and nobody's life gets any better. Conspiracy
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theories don't put food on the table. They don't put
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– Hello, it's put food on two tables. The curry
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and Dvorak family for 19 years. This has been great.
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It's in the tank. They don't actually improve our communities
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or improve our country. And so I'm going to stay
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focused on the very real problems that are facing Texans.
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And that's exactly why I'm here tonight. So he was
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there to face the Texans. And it was really good
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to see believers standing up and asking him questions and
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I thought this answer was quite telling about his faith.
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My topic is abortion. Yeah. I am a Catholic, an
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Orthodox Catholic. As you know, Catholics, we tend, and I
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myself included, to be a one-issue voter. And so what
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makes it difficult for us to vote Democrat is that
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we have this idea that if you cannot provide policies
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or support policies that protect the most innocent among us,
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who is the unborn child, how can we trust people
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that you're going to provide policies to protect the rest
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of Texans and to promote dignity and human life in
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that. So I challenge you on that. You know, some
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of my spiritual heroes, like Pope Francis and Pope Leo,
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those are two of the killers right there, are... pro-life.
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And they are consistently pro-life. They're not just against abortion,
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but they are against poverty, against climate change, against war.
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And so I can respect anyone, like you, who is
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consistently pro-life. And I actually think there's common ground we
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can find here. We may come to different moral and
23:58
ethical conclusions when it comes to the question of should
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abortion be legal or not. It sounds like you and
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I do come to a different conclusion. That's okay. We're
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both Christians. We're both Christians. And the Bible is silent
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on the issue of abortion. What? I know that. What?
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That, I mean, and that's the thing. I've heard this.
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In fact, we're still watching the West Wing. We're in
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the final season. It's getting pretty dumb. And it's a
24:26
what's his face? Alan Alda is the Republican and Jimmy
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Smith is the Democrat. And this this comes up in
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the TV show. The Bible is silent on abortion. I'm
24:39
like, no, you knit me together in my mother's womb.
24:45
God says he created us both in the womb. I
24:48
mean, this not silence. And then you get down to
24:53
the death part of it, which is also gravely misunderstood.
24:59
Yeah. Well, we'll get to that in a minute. But
25:01
I was just like, what? It's silent? And he goes
25:05
to seminary school. And it's almost like it's a technicality.
25:10
You know, it's almost like he reads the Bible as
25:13
if it were a legal document, and that's a technicality.
25:19
And, you know, the Bible doesn't say anything about spending
25:22
too much time on your gaming console, right? I mean,
25:26
there's nothing in there. It's silent on gaming. It's completely
25:30
silent on gaming. I mean, and so, yeah, it is
25:33
kind of trying to read the Bible as some kind
25:35
of technical guide. And yes, is it a guide to
25:39
life? Yes, but it's not a technical guide. And I
25:43
think there's a lot of religions that still treat it
25:46
that way. It sounds like you and I do come
25:48
to a different conclusion. That's okay. We're both Christians. And
25:53
the Bible is silent on the issue of abortion. It
25:56
means you and I both have to look at different
25:58
scriptures to try to come to a conclusion. But what
26:01
I think we can do is actually come together on
26:05
reducing the number of unplanned pregnancies and the number of
26:09
abortions. Because if we treat this issue as a public
26:13
health problem and not a culture war problem, then we
26:17
can actually make progress together. Okay, so... Then he goes
26:21
in. Now he's going to backpedal on some of the
26:24
other things he said. And so I actually want to
26:26
clarify a few of the things that you said, because
26:29
I know that this has been used in these attack
26:31
ads all over the state. You know, the first comment
26:36
about about God not being defined by gender. Yeah. When
26:41
I said that, I was being provocative, and I want
26:44
to admit that and come clean about that. Let me
26:46
come clean. I was being provocative. Well, no, you're being
26:48
dumb. It's like, especially in Texas. Why would you even
26:52
say that? Hello, babe. Yeah, she's here. Yeah. Tina checking
26:57
in. Yeah, Phoebe's with us. Is she bringing us in
27:00
snacks? No. No. There's no snacks. We're not no charcuterie?
27:05
No, there's no charcuterie on the No Agenda show. Oh,
27:07
man. At the end of the show, though, you will
27:09
get a glass of wine if you will. Do you
27:11
drink wine? No alcohol at all. No alcohol? Grape juice?
27:15
Grape juice. Right. Can I interrupt that with a good
27:18
juice story? Yes, please. All right. Why not? So I
27:21
was traveling in Yugoslavia. And I had a friend in
27:25
Colorado who was from Yugoslavia, and her family was still
27:30
there. I was all over Europe that summer, and she
27:32
just said, hey, if you happen to get to Yugoslavia,
27:35
here's my family's address. You should go knock on the
27:39
door, and I'm sure they'll put you up. So I
27:42
made it to Pula, Yugoslavia. Pula, where? Pula. You cross
27:47
the border from Italy at Trieste, and then if you
27:50
go straight down the coast, Pula is about halfway down
27:52
the coast. Oh, okay. Okay. All the German – all
27:55
the very overweight white German people go there for the
27:58
nude beach. Yeah, and they put out their towels at
28:01
3 in the morning to reserve their spots. So I'm
28:04
in Pula. I go to this big house, knock on
28:07
the door. This little old lady comes out. I don't
28:10
speak Italian. I got a little bit of German in
28:12
me. Got a little bit of Spanish. She looks at
28:14
me and goes, go away, you're German. No, no. I
28:16
dropped her cousin's name. And she said, oh, yeah, I'd
28:19
heard of, you know, she let me know that. Oh,
28:21
yeah, I knew you were coming. Invites me in. So
28:24
she's the matriarch of the house, and we drank espresso
28:27
and smoked cigarettes all day. Nice. And had a great
28:30
conversation, but just with like a pad of paper and
28:33
a pencil. And I mean literally drawing out a guy
28:36
walking with a backpack on his back. Wow. That's what
28:39
I'm doing. Oh, and so we had this great conversation.
28:42
And so I learned that there was one English speaker
28:46
in the family. Mm-hmm. And so everybody gets home in
28:49
the evening, and finally the guy that speaks English shows
28:52
up. Oh, he's so excited to meet me. He just,
28:55
oh, man, we're going on. Oh, let's have a drink.
28:57
Can I get you a beer? And I said, no,
28:59
no, thank you. And he said, oh, the strong stuff.
29:02
You want some vodka? And he's reaching up into the
29:05
cabinet and pulling down a bottle of vodka. Yeah. I
29:08
said, no. I said, I don't drink any alcoholic or
29:12
any alcohol. I'm an alcoholic. And he goes, oh, I
29:15
know what that is. And he says, let me show
29:17
you what that is. And then he says, so do
29:20
you like Jews? Jews? Jews. And I'm standing there, oh,
29:27
Lord. Oh. What do I do now? I was very
29:32
nervous, and I'm trying to think, well, what would be
29:36
an appropriate answer? I mean, I'm in his house, you
29:39
know? I don't want to give the wrong answer. And
29:42
finally, he says, you know, apple juice or orange juice.
29:48
That's a good story. That's a shaggy dog story. There
29:51
you go. I couldn't help myself. All right. Well done,
29:57
sir. Thank you. Well done. And so I actually want
29:59
to.
30:00
clarify a few of the things that you said, because
30:02
I know that this has been used in these attack
30:05
ads all over the state. You know, the first comment
30:09
about God not being defined by gender. When I said
30:14
that, I was being provocative, and I want to admit
30:17
that and come clean about that. I'm going to say
30:19
that. But I think what I was saying is actually
30:22
not controversial theologically. The idea that we can't define God
30:26
using human categories. Not only did I say that, but
30:30
the late Charlie Kirk said that. The late Pope Benedict.
30:34
said that. And so yes, I was doing it maybe
30:38
in an annoying way. I can admit that. I think
30:40
we have to be careful using modern cultural terms when
30:43
talking about God. Sure. I think that is very fair
30:47
criticism. And I've kind of admitted when how I've said
30:50
things in the past have maybe not come across in
30:53
the right way or have... upset people and that's not
30:57
my intention and my goal I'm a seminary student as
31:02
you know my granddad was a Baptist that's what kills
31:04
me as you know I'm a seminary student well you
31:07
should go back to grade one maybe there's a couple
31:09
things that seem to be wrong with his thinking and
31:11
I'm following in his footsteps hopefully going to become a
31:15
minister one day And preachers often will say something shocking
31:19
in a sermon to get your attention. And that's something
31:23
I'm still learning how to do in a responsible way.
31:27
And so I'm always going to take feedback from my
31:29
fellow Christians and from my constituents on how to do
31:33
that in a responsible way where I'm actually communicating what
31:36
I mean and not muddying the water. Yeah. How about
31:41
not saying God is not by here? Did you just
31:43
let go through your head this may be an irresponsible
31:46
way to do it? All right. One more clip here.
31:48
And I just wanted to add that the Bible is
31:50
not silent on abortion. There is the Ten Commandments, thou
31:53
shalt not kill. Now, let's just stop you for a
31:54
second. That comes back later with Hassan. You know, if
31:59
you go back and look at the original text, it
32:02
says, you know, the kill... Is murder. Murder. That's right.
32:06
It's actually not murder. And I think it was the
32:09
King James version that said kill, but every translation after
32:13
that says murder because that is the original intent of
32:16
the word. Kill, like a harmful killing. So murder is
32:20
what it was about. And I just want to add
32:23
that the Bible is not silent on abortion. There is
32:25
the Ten Commandments, that shall not kill. And as Catholics,
32:28
we take great insults. Wow. Sometimes it's spouted that way.
32:33
But I also want to add, I know I'm up
32:35
on time, but... contraception and age-appropriate thing also when it
32:39
comes to Catholic vote is a very trying thing for
32:42
us because we believe the parents are the primary educator
32:45
of our children. And so one of the things that
32:48
we really struggle with is having any government interference with
32:51
how we educate our children. So I know we're going
32:53
to agree to disagree on that, but I do appreciate
32:56
your comments on attending to the life from the womb
32:59
to the tomb. And I think that's one common ground
33:01
we can come to. And I think, you know, you
33:03
know that I'm an educator like you. Sure. And if
33:06
I believed that abortion was murder, that it violated the
33:10
Ten Commandments, then I wouldn't support it. Now, this is
33:13
so he correctly identifies murder. But he says if I
33:17
believed it was murder, he doesn't believe it's murder. Right.
33:20
Isn't it a harmful killing? I mean, some of how
33:22
this happens is quite harmful. I just find that to
33:26
be baffling that he can twist and just with a
33:29
straight face. Oh, and Satan was good at that. Jesus
33:33
told us about that at the temptations. yeah that uh
33:37
yeah she uh satan knows how to twist those words
33:41
around without a doubt he's channeling is what you're saying
33:45
you know you know what i'm thinking here what got
33:47
me more was was this a random woman brought up
33:51
never never if it was she was well prepared yeah
33:55
no she did a real i have to did a
33:58
good job no it's always set up i mean on
34:00
all sides of the political spectrum what i found or
34:05
what i find so interesting is how uh the republicans
34:09
and certainly the administration they seem to be very worried
34:14
about this guy beating ken paxton and and vance I
34:19
don't know if you heard this, but I was like,
34:20
you know, it seems kind of beneath him to say
34:24
this. A guy that age who is so obsessed and
34:27
focused on transgender children. I don't know about you, but
34:31
I never want to see that guy's web browser history.
34:33
Pfft. Well, he's just a guy who shows a weird
34:36
focus on transgender kids and drag queens. Who's your favorite
34:41
drag queen in Texas? Oh my gosh, probably Alyssa Edwards.
34:44
Alyssa Edwards? He said something to the effect of... An
34:47
11-year-old in drag was a great side or a very
34:51
beautiful thing. He says a lot of weird stuff, and
34:54
I think typically people who say stuff like that tend
34:57
to have some pretty unusual search histories. Maybe he doesn't,
35:00
just guessing, but I wouldn't want to see it. Okay.
35:03
It's just, okay. Are you really that afraid? I mean,
35:07
so what if the guy wins? Are we going to
35:09
lose the country? Okay. You know, I've been thinking a
35:14
lot about this. These guys tell us, they either tell
35:18
us or we're afraid of what they can do. First
35:21
of all, they've got no power. If he's in the
35:24
Senate, he's one of 100. He'll be a freshman. And
35:28
I'm not saying that I hope he wins or anything,
35:31
but he will not. be as destructive as everybody says
35:35
he will be. It's just the numbers, right? If he
35:39
makes that number change, and he would be, that would
35:43
flip a seat. That would take us from what, a
35:46
two-seat majority? Who is this us you're talking about? Oh,
35:50
yeah, I know. It would take the Republicans... from a
35:56
two-seat majority in the Senate down to one. That gets
36:00
tricky. And that does get tricky. And so, yeah, and
36:04
depending on who he gets together with on down the
36:07
road, but right now immediately – He's not going to
36:11
have any power when he gets there. And honestly, neither
36:13
will Paxton. I mean, this is one thing I want
36:16
to talk about after the election because people get all
36:19
bent out of shape when I look at things objectively.
36:23
They want me to toe the party line. But neither
36:26
one of them has that much power. You know, Chip
36:29
Roy… he's he's very quick to say he's one out
36:32
of you know 435 you know he's very quick to
36:36
say that and uh but what we are always told
36:38
is that oh i'm going to go to washington and
36:41
i'm going to do this and i'm going to do
36:43
that none of them can do any of that mr
36:45
smith goes to washington and changes the world it's just
36:48
that you can't do that yeah and uh So there's
36:51
a little bit that bothers me about. Do you know
36:54
who's behind this Tallarico guy? I mean, is it it
36:56
is there a driving force? You know, we know we
37:00
have the DSA behind a lot of the extremely progressive
37:05
left wing Democrat candidates. Who is driving Tallarica? I mean,
37:11
is there a real constituency from believers for him as
37:13
well? Are there Christians supporting him? That I can't tell
37:16
you, but I know that him being in the Texas
37:19
house and being vocal, he's been there a number of
37:23
years. I've testified in front of his. committees several times
37:27
and uh and and so i really think that they
37:32
were looking the democrats went about they said we need
37:36
a young face we need someone young um i think
37:38
it really was because of his youth and his appearance
37:42
and he did take a pretty strong he was one
37:45
of the I don't know, eight or ten Democrats that
37:48
always seem to be at the back mic. And that's
37:51
how you get attention among the party and among the
37:57
public is going to the back mic in the Texas
38:00
House. And so that was where he was there a
38:02
lot. So he was known in that circle. And I
38:06
imagine at some point... time people were sitting around saying
38:10
we got to find somebody and he was you know
38:12
chosen And he's – and so as far as is
38:15
there any kind of hidden money behind him, I don't
38:19
know. I think he was picked by the Democrats for
38:24
his youth, for his activities, his anti-Republican stands being open
38:31
and vocal. He's a Christian. Oh, yeah, anti-Republican. And he's
38:35
a Christian, so you put that in there. And, yeah,
38:37
I think he's suckering a lot of people. Then we
38:40
have Ken Paxton. I have a nice negative report about
38:44
him, too, today, just to even it all out. The
38:47
Wall Street Journal reported today that Texas Republican Senate nominee
38:50
Ken Paxton partied. With two U.S. fugitives in Dubai and
38:54
a woman, not his wife, doing so on New Year's
38:56
Eve 2024. The Journal has video of the event on
39:00
the balcony of a luxury high-rise building. You see it
39:04
there. Paxton, who was married at the time, is seen
39:06
with his girlfriend also in the video. One of two
39:09
Americans indicted months prior to this event on federal television.
39:13
healthcare fraud charges. We're joined now by CBS News Texas
39:18
political reporter Jack Fink. Jack catch us up on this
39:21
Wall Street Journal story and whatever implications it has thus
39:25
far had in the race. Major nice to be with
39:28
you. I think this video from the Wall Street Journal
39:32
and the story just reinforces the notion of the baggage
39:36
that Ken Paxson has. He's had this very public divorce
39:40
that he's gone through. State Senator Angela Paxson, his wife,
39:44
filed for divorce. She announced it publicly on X last
39:48
July on biblical grounds. And so this just reinforces all
39:54
of that. He's also been under an ethical cloud. He
39:57
hasn't faced any federal charges. He was under federal investigation
40:02
for a long time. But this just really reinforces the
40:05
notion. And this is why some Republicans tell me they
40:09
just will not be able to vote for Paxton. in
40:13
this race there's a lot of people who don't like
40:15
paxton yeah i know it i know it and it's
40:18
one of those situations where you You know, I am.
40:22
I'm not a party hack, but I definitely am going
40:27
to go Republican majority of the time. There are other
40:32
people on the ballot, though. Oh, absolutely. And yeah, there's
40:35
some libertarians. Anyone any good? Not that I would waste
40:39
a vote on, and I hate to say it, but
40:41
we have a two-party system. I mean I'm probably more
40:44
libertarian on a conservative side. I call myself a small
40:48
L libertarian because I believe in liberty. Yeah. And so
40:52
I kind of lean in that direction. But this is
40:56
a two-party system, and there's just no – for right
41:00
now, we're stuck with it. And I hate to say
41:03
it, but if that's a protest vote, you know, I'm
41:07
going to vote for the libertarian. I'll show them. You're
41:09
not showing anybody anything. You're not proving anything. Why do
41:12
you think – President Trump endorsed him and not Cornyn.
41:15
Cornyn was no good? Cornyn was really no good. All
41:19
right. I mean, thanks for informing me. We have. Listen,
41:23
you could look at his. Well, Biden thought he was
41:26
the greatest thing since sliced bread. Biden loved him. And
41:30
he worked with Biden on some gun control issues. Oh,
41:33
we didn't have that. and some red flag laws. And
41:37
so that was, in fact... And when that first came
41:41
up, when Cornyn first got behind those bills during Biden,
41:45
I immediately announced on my radio show that Cornyn's not
41:49
going to run again because this is the behavior of
41:52
folks when they're in their last year. They don't care.
41:56
And so they'll make deals or do things that they
41:59
know won't matter. And so when he did that with
42:02
the red flag laws and the gun control issues with
42:05
the Democrats and with Biden – And guaranteed he's not
42:09
going to run again. So I was shocked when all
42:11
of a sudden we hear he's running again. I said,
42:14
no, you screwed the pooch. And then he got beat
42:19
2-1. He outspent Paxton 12-1 and got beat 2-1 by
42:24
Paxton. As an ode to JCD, you brought a noisemaker
42:29
today. I did. He would have loved this, by the
42:33
way. He would have loved this noisemaker. All right. I'm
42:36
going to – Don't tell anybody what it is yet.
42:38
Okay. I won't tell anybody what it is yet. And
42:41
I can guarantee you that noisemaker has never been on
42:45
no agenda 19 years, has never been there. Are you
42:48
getting anything in the rat room? I'm looking. The rat
42:50
room? Oh, no. What is it? The dwarf room? It's
42:54
true. It's something like that. The troll room. The dwarf
42:58
room is even better. Do it again. Do it again.
43:01
All right. One more time. Here they go. I don't
43:04
think anyone will get that. Oh, no, they could have
43:07
some good guesses. Is this a traditional noisemaker? Is this
43:12
like a… No, it is traditional. It was purchased at
43:15
a music store. It's actually a legitimate instrument. Yeah. No
43:20
one has got it. So you're going to have to
43:23
tell everybody what it is. These are – I purchased
43:26
these at a music store in Quito, Ecuador. I'm pretty
43:30
sure it was Quito, and it was a legitimate music
43:33
store and not for tourists. And it is – Pig
43:36
toenails. And they look gruesome. They do. It looks like
43:41
he had, what do you call that, gook under your
43:44
teeth? It looks like he had, what's that nasty stuff
43:47
under your toenails? Yeah, I've got it. Fungus. Fungus. It
43:51
looks like all the pigs had fungus. Does it smell?
43:54
No. No. My cats can smell something on it because
43:57
when I dug it out of the box this morning,
43:59
my cat – or yesterday, the cats relocated it a
44:02
couple of times overnight. Get that out of here, Dad.
44:05
Overnight. We can't have that around. And they were giving
44:07
it a good sniff. Now, I have a friend in
44:09
Indiana, Indianapolis actually, and he has always collected – Different
44:14
percussion instruments. And so I remember going, I said, oh,
44:17
buy Steve something in there, something he doesn't have. And
44:21
so, yeah, I bought two of these strings of pig
44:24
toenails, and one of them is residing in Indianapolis right
44:29
now. You are such an OG dude, man. I love
44:33
that. I got a noise maker rattling this front of
44:37
me. What is this thing in front of my face?
44:38
Pig nails. That's amazing. So we have the latest controversy.
44:45
Of course, this is Ukraine and Russia, which I guess
44:47
this is the new focus of President Trump is to
44:49
stop this war. He kind of promised it within 24
44:52
hours. Not kind of. He actually promised it over and
44:56
over, over and over and over. Very disappointing.
45:00
Now it seems that by hook or crook he's going
45:03
to make it happen. A key component of Ukraine's communications
45:06
network was partially disabled today, perhaps by its ally, the
45:10
United States. The Starshield satellite network, funded by the Pentagon
45:15
and operated by Elon Musk's SpaceX, was not operating at
45:18
full capacity today, hampering communications within the Ukrainian military. Liz
45:23
Landers has that story. Overnight in Kyiv, homes engulfed in
45:29
flames. As rescue workers rushed to put out the blaze,
45:35
and save the victims of Russia's latest brutal onslaught. Просто,
45:39
блядь. as it continues to target Ukraine's energy infrastructure, plunging
45:45
the nation's capital into darkness. This comes just three days
45:48
after President Trump announced on Truth Social a, quote, energy
45:52
ceasefire in the war between Russia and Ukraine, and that,
45:55
quote, both parties have agreed. Since Trump's announcement Sunday, Russia
46:00
has struck at least 26 energy facilities across Ukraine. And
46:04
the war-weary nation feels it is being abandoned by its
46:08
ally. President Zelensky told Piers Morgan today: We are a
46:12
losing strong partner. So this is my opinion. You think
46:18
you're losing America? Yeah, but not because of us. I
46:23
mean, we can't be weak, otherwise we can't survive. It's
46:26
painful when President Trump chooses one side, not our side,
46:33
but we are okay that he's in the middle, but
46:36
if you're in the middle, you have to stay in
46:38
the middle. Not on the wrong side. I think his
46:41
advisors are wrong. I don't know who is pushing him
46:45
not to the right side. This is not the right
46:47
side of history. No, it's Elon Musk, of course. This
46:50
is the guy who's also going to rig the elections.
46:53
He's going to rig the midterms with his new satellites.
46:55
Oh, absolutely. Yeah. But the thing, I didn't really understand...
47:00
So this is Star Shield, which is actually Richard Engel
47:05
is hilarious. The spook is on the scene, and Engel
47:11
goes on NBC TV. And this is how he says
47:15
it's going down. So Elon Musk, who's now once again
47:17
a supporter of the Trump administration, they had a breakup
47:21
and now he's back supporting the Republicans with hundreds of
47:23
million dollars for the midterm. He just cut off, according
47:28
to the Ukrainians, a key policy. communication system. Yeah, the
47:33
Starlink system. The Starlink system. Richard, so what does that
47:35
mean for Ukraine's ability to defend itself, to protect its
47:38
skies, because now they're in a real situation with no
47:41
weaponry and then losing the support of the U.S.? So
47:44
the... Starlink system, which either of you or I could,
47:48
we could buy as a consumer, is different than the
47:52
military-grade Starlink that the Pentagon pays for and that Ukraine
47:56
uses. It's called Star Shield. It's the same thing. It's
47:59
just more classified, a little more upgraded. It's the same
48:02
thing. Just more classified, a little upgraded, you know, nothing
48:05
necessary. same thing. It's basically what you and I have,
48:08
Matt. With a racing stripe painted on the side of
48:12
it. The entire Ukrainian military can't function without it. And
48:16
they use that, the Ukrainian military use that, for everything.
48:20
For targeting for defense, for all their missile defense, for
48:26
communications, for everything. And that... How did we do war
48:30
before the internet? I mean, no kidding. It was impossible.
48:33
It was just throttled, meaning it was greatly, greatly reduced
48:37
without any advanced knowledge. Musk, turn it off. So that's
48:43
not what happened. And of all outlets, scripts... Some of
48:48
the Scripps live here. They live right here. They do.
48:50
They're a branch of the family. Are they the medical
48:52
Scripps or the media Scripps that live here? I think
48:55
they're an offshoot of the bigger Scripps family. They're subscripts.
49:00
A subscript. A subscript. Thank you. I wish I'd have
49:03
thought of that. Yeah, there you go. No, they're good
49:05
people. No, no, they're good people. Without a doubt. But
49:08
here's from – A news organization they're somehow related to.
49:12
The war between Ukraine and Russia has now been going
49:14
on for more than four and a half years. Ukraine
49:17
has survived largely because of its expansive use of drone
49:21
technology. But today there was a setback. It came after
49:24
Kiev endured another night of missile attacks. Officials saying attack
49:28
drones suddenly lost their Starlink signal. And it may have
49:31
to do with tensions between Kiev and Washington. Scripps News
49:34
Chief International Correspondent Jason Bellini is live right now in
49:37
Kiev. And Jason, explain what happened and then how Ukraine's
49:41
armed forces found out about the speed throttling is what
49:44
it's being called and how significant this could become. So
49:47
I heard speed throttling like, are they downgrading? You know,
49:50
this thing is pretty fast, you know. we have it
49:52
here as a backup. Okay, what's the speed throttling? It's
49:55
not what you think. Hi, Dale. Ukraine's military says it's
50:00
Starshield terminals. This is the military version of Starlink. It
50:03
started cutting out during missions early this morning. So the
50:07
commanders, they filed a complaint, and customer support told them
50:10
that their terminal... Hello, hello, I'm the commander from the
50:13
field. Hey, hey, is this customer support? It's cutting out,
50:21
man. The commanders, they filed a complaint, and customer support
50:25
told them that their terminals are set to stop working
50:28
at 100 miles per hour. It's not going to go
50:31
any faster anymore. So these terminals are on the drones,
50:35
right? And I didn't even know these things worked at
50:39
50 miles an hour. So 100 miles an hour. And
50:42
then... All of a sudden, if you're traveling faster than
50:44
100 miles an hour, it doesn't communicate with the satellite.
50:48
Well, they've got Starlink on jet airliners now these days.
50:52
Yeah, but they're basically looking at the satellites at altitude.
50:56
Okay. You think they're like right outside the window. No,
51:00
not far. It's low Earth orbiting. So back to Engel.
51:05
Did he say why? The implication, because he didn't say
51:08
specifically why, but he has just been very critical of
51:11
Zelensky joining President Trump's criticism. So Trump is angry with
51:15
Zelensky because he says that Zelensky is attacking Russian orbiters.
51:20
oil refineries and therefore driving up the price of diesel,
51:23
not mentioning the fact that Strait of Hormuz and the
51:27
Iran war and that. Elon Musk chimed in and said,
51:31
yes, I agree with Trump that Zelensky should be removed
51:35
from power, which is not... Trump's call or Musk's call
51:43
thank you for that matter but he was angry because
51:47
Zelensky has been hitting Russian data centers and that's pretty
51:52
close to home for someone who's promoting the you know
51:55
data centers in the data center industry really really and
51:59
so elon is doing this because data centers are getting
52:04
blowed up you know we're just not that smart i'm
52:06
sorry so so many of these theories like this would
52:10
require brilliance beyond everyone's abilities listen they're having issues with
52:15
their starlink it's And they're in a war. Could it
52:19
possibly be the other side, you know, zapping them with
52:23
some kind of kill bug or something? I mean, there's
52:26
a lot of reasons. Oh, you don't think that this
52:29
was a call by the president to slow stuff down?
52:32
No, I don't think so. I'm not buying that at
52:34
all. Maybe that customer support call helps. Thank you. I
52:37
think it was working. again yes drones go fast that's
52:41
that's that's an interesting point i mean uh what did
52:44
musk say musk Let me see. Here's what he said
52:49
here. As the two allies' relationship shows signs of fraying,
52:53
Ukraine has accused the United States of not providing advanced
52:56
warning of the Russian strikes, although the Ukrainian president told
52:59
NPR it was a, quote, technical glitch. And of temporarily
53:02
limiting their use. Technical glitch. There you go. Call customer
53:06
support. Clear that right up. ...visage of the Starship. Turn
53:09
it off and on again. It'll work. Guaranteed. Unplug it.
53:14
Unplug it. ...version of the Starlink Network. which is integral
53:19
to Ukraine's targeting of Russian military installations within Russian-occupied Ukrainian
53:24
territory. Star Shield's thousands of satellites provide Ukraine with the
53:28
broadband connection needed to find and target Russian military equipment
53:32
and personnel across Ukrainian territory. Along with data for interceptor
53:37
drones that take down Russian attacks, that ability severely curtailed.
53:42
As President Zelensky stressed today. It's a big mistake. A
53:46
lot of losses. This... decision will bring a lot of
53:49
human losses. People are dying because of his decision. Of
53:52
course, people will die. Of course, if attacks will continue
53:57
and if Starling will not work, of course, I mean,
53:59
it's not helpful. So my message is absolutely, I hope,
54:04
that it's a mistake, maybe huge technical problem, I don't
54:08
know, but we are asking to do it. vote Republican.
54:14
Late today, former Defense Minister Mikhailo Fedorov posted on X
54:18
that Starshield link connectivity is being, quote, restored. To which
54:22
SpaceX CEO Elon Musk responded on X that, quote, any
54:25
limits on speed or usage are decided by the U.S.
54:29
military and ultimately POTUS. I hadn't actually considered your option
54:33
there, that this could have been, first of all, could
54:36
have been opposition, interrupting satellite transmission, or... truly a bug
54:41
in the firmware that needed to be updated by customer
54:44
support. I hadn't even considered it. I forgot that they
54:47
said they called customer support. That is really a hoot.
54:51
We don't call to the Pentagon. We just call customers.
54:54
Hey, go on the website and see if there's an
55:00
outage in your area. Put Put your zip code in.
55:02
That's a possibility. Of course, what this really is about
55:05
is Europe needs a war. They need a war. They're
55:10
in real big trouble with – I mean, you think
55:13
our deficits are bad? What's going on in the EU
55:16
is – I mean, they got a real problem, especially
55:19
France. And – And lo and behold, the whole issue
55:24
of France is summed up by a familiar figure who
55:28
popped up. Who would pop up when it's – something
55:30
about kids and students and schools and who would show
55:34
up to uh oh put me on the spot could
55:36
only be one only one younger one young lady she's
55:39
just a kid i'm here because this is one of
55:42
the places where bretta toonberry oh my lord i'm here
55:46
because this is one of the places where where it
55:50
started they've been going for almost three weeks now students
55:53
occupying the school and teachers striking in solidarity with them
55:57
which is an incredible beautiful solidarity to see and again
56:03
the french students are now showing the world how we
56:07
should be standing up and how we should be revolting
56:10
against an extremely violent system and they're leading by example.
56:15
They're protesting against a violent system. You mean the people
56:18
who were at war to bankrupt your companies and restart
56:21
your money system? Greta, get with it, girl. People are
56:24
stepping up and revolting and rebelling against the system. We
56:26
know it's not working in our favor, which we can
56:29
also see from the extremely violent response from the establishment.
56:35
where politicians are... Oh, nice little laugh. You know, there
56:38
from Greta, yeah. ...from the establishments where politicians are responding
56:45
in a way that just shows that they're completely out
56:48
of touch with reality and what people... Whenever she shows
56:50
up, you know it's an up. You know, it's an
56:52
obvious up. You know what I hope for her is
56:55
that... I hope she is making a bundle of money
56:58
off of this. I really, I really hope that she's
57:02
just not out doing this out of conviction. I don't
57:05
think she ever was in the first place. No, no.
57:07
So I really, as a capitalist, man, God bless her.
57:11
If she's making a bundle of money, I hope in
57:13
40 years to see her, you know, in some, you
57:16
know – rolls. Yeah. Rolling up in the rolls. Oh,
57:19
yeah. Yeah. God bless her. Okay. Responding in a way
57:24
that just shows that they're completely out of touch with
57:26
reality and what people are actually living and going through.
57:29
And when police are protecting this extremely violent status quo
57:34
at the expense of these children going out demanding. The
57:38
bare minimum just shows everything who they are really protecting.
57:43
She does kind of complete the whole Les Miserables. vibe
57:46
of this. The barricades, you've got people fighting against the
57:49
system, fighting against the government, and she kind of looks
57:52
like that kid from Les Miserables. Who was that? I
57:55
never watched that. Oh, it's a musical, right? I saw
58:00
it on Broadway. Broadway, it's just wonderful. It is some
58:03
of the best theater I've ever seen, Matt. On Broadway.
58:07
Yeah, some Broadway. Let's go to CNBC. That's why we're
58:10
standing here in front of the National Assembly, where the
58:13
debates will be starting this afternoon at 3 p.m. Again,
58:17
a fragmented parliament, so it will be difficult to see
58:19
the compromise that can come from this parliament, especially about
58:22
six months before an all-important presidential election. But certainly, the
58:26
government made their proposals. But about an hour before the
58:29
debate starts here at parliament, the protests. will be starting
58:32
for the students, the high school students. It will be
58:34
their fifth day of mobilization. Some clashes and some movements
58:37
have started in some of the schools already in parts
58:40
of Paris this morning. And we'll wait and see. It's
58:43
a bit of a test today to see whether the
58:45
movement gathers in momentum and gets a bit wider or
58:47
whether it starts to calm down. Yesterday, 96.5% of the
58:51
high schools were overwhelmed. open to the students. We still
58:54
saw some pockets of protests here and there. But today's
58:57
a bit of a test to see how it goes.
58:58
Some unions are joining the movement as well. And that's
59:01
ahead of a big movement of mobilization that is expected
59:04
on Saturday, where wider unions are calling for protests on
59:07
Saturday. The gilets jaunes as well, coming back in the
59:10
picture, also wanting to join the movement. So that is
59:12
a big question there for the government. The yellow vests
59:15
there who are showing their, you know, because, of course,
59:18
this is a left-wing organized protest because they don't want
59:21
Marine Le Pen to, you know, to win this upcoming
59:23
election. So, you know, it's all organized labor that is
59:27
doing this. And there seem to be quite violent. Can
59:31
there be a gathering of different movements of discontent groups?
59:35
gathering together in this momentum. And all this, you know,
59:38
bringing the background of this all-important budget negotiation, trying to
59:42
tackle the deficit to 5% from 5.4% this year. We
59:47
know the debt reaching 120% of GDP. So tough discussions
59:51
to have. The high school students were asking for money,
59:54
that's for 10 billion euros in money to repair some
59:57
of the schools and bring in more students, the government
59:59
said,
1:00:00
They brought in some extra teachers, 3,000 substitute teachers being
1:00:03
brought in the picture. President Macron speaking yesterday from the
1:00:06
Paris Motor Show saying, you know, we want to hear
1:00:08
what they want, but we need to do it in
1:00:10
a calm manner. Where was he? The Paris Motor Show?
1:00:13
Yeah. Your country's burning. Nice wheels, man. They brought in
1:00:18
some extra teachers, 3,000 substitute teachers. issues being brought in
1:00:22
the picture. President Macron speaking yesterday from the Paris Moto
1:00:25
Show saying, you know, we want to hear what they
1:00:27
want, but we need to do it in a calm
1:00:29
manner, but we have to wait and see whether it
1:00:31
is a calm manner today in this protest, because we
1:00:33
saw pockets of clashes with the police, and we'll see
1:00:36
whether this moment develops to something bigger, or whether it
1:00:39
starts coming down, especially with a half-term holiday starting at
1:00:42
the end. end of this week. The holiday's starting. It
1:00:48
seems that Just the French language is the problem. Yeah.
1:00:53
The French language is the issue because now we have
1:00:57
Quebec and Alberta both – Alberta, they speak English, though,
1:01:01
right? Right, right. Yeah, I think Quebec is the only
1:01:04
– they're the Frenchies. Right. Well, the Quebecians, they –
1:01:09
so they're all – looking to possibly Canada along. Is
1:01:15
it it's not Quebecians? I'm sure it's not the Quebec
1:01:18
was. I'm sure there's a different word for it. And
1:01:22
the rat room will let you know the dwarf room.
1:01:27
But of course, they're all stupid because, you know, listen,
1:01:29
how they're making their decisions. Parti Quebecois leader Paul St.
1:01:33
Pierre Quebecois. Quebecois. Quebecois, there we go. Parti Quebecois leader
1:01:36
Paul St-Pierre Plamondon was thrilled to squeak out a minority
1:01:40
government win in what turned out to be a historic
1:01:43
Quebec election. But researchers that track artificial intelligence chatbots say
1:01:48
that election was notable for the amount of misinformation spread
1:01:53
by those bots. The bots! The bots did it! We
1:01:57
estimate about 40% of Quebec electors went to chatbots to
1:02:01
get information about the election. Yeah. they are not getting
1:02:05
sort of the most accurate and up-to-date information. Whoa, I'm
1:02:08
shocked. We need to talk to the Book of Knowledge
1:02:11
and see what the Book of Knowledge will tell us.
1:02:14
Okay. Let's see. Book of Knowledge. I am a Quebecois,
1:02:19
and I want to know, should I vote for leaving
1:02:23
Canada? Let's see what this chatbot says, shall we? I
1:02:28
hope it's not in an accent. Oh, it is. A
1:02:30
French accent. According to the Book of Knowledge, the separatist
1:02:35
party Quebecois has just won Quebec's provincial election, returning to
1:02:40
power with a promise to hold another referendum on independence
1:02:44
from Canada. However, support for independence hovers around a mere
1:02:49
30%, and the PQ leader himself has pledged not to
1:02:54
hold one before January 2029, when Trump's term expires. It
1:03:01
has been rigged. It didn't give me any disinformation. It
1:03:04
gave me no information. It was not helpful at all.
1:03:06
That's no good. MPs on a House of Commons committee
1:03:09
have just started to consider what can be done about
1:03:13
this. One of those MPs, Braden Cayley, just won his
1:03:16
seat in a summer by-election, where he said his supporters
1:03:21
also found AI. My bots behaving badly. Whoa, this is
1:03:25
not good. How many people, how many Americans do you
1:03:27
think are going to ask their chat bot for election
1:03:31
information? Election information. I'll bet a lot. I'm willing to
1:03:34
bet a bunch of people will. There was actually a,
1:03:38
let me see, I had a, there was a clip
1:03:40
about that. Let me see if I have it. Um...
1:03:46
because Anthropic just... Made some kind of Hmm Let me
1:03:53
see if I can find this Anthropic Come on anthropic
1:03:58
Does he say a boot? No no no no this
1:04:01
is Election maybe No, I don't think I can find
1:04:08
this now. Yeah, thank you. Thank you, Matt. Thanks for
1:04:11
saving me. I'll look forward to it. We're being told
1:04:13
as a liberal campaign to go visit the conservative campaign
1:04:17
office instead. And researchers say the current Alberta referendum is
1:04:22
also awash in disinformation amplified by AI bots. One solution
1:04:27
MPs are being asked to consider, make chatbots. subject to
1:04:32
federal and provincial elections law, which prohibit disinformation and restricts
1:04:37
some third-party speech during election campaigns. We accept very strict
1:04:43
limits on speech. during this limited time period of democratic
1:04:48
decision making and deliberation. And I think chatbots are going
1:04:51
to have to be included in that. As if on
1:04:53
cue, Anthropic, the maker of the chatbot, updated its algorithm
1:04:58
late Thursday, voluntarily agreeing to those kind of restrictions. Go
1:05:03
figure was the very clip I was playing. It's all
1:05:05
about the bottom line. They figure they can get more
1:05:09
money out of Canada. Is that what it is if
1:05:12
they do that? Anthropic? Anthropic? Well, the question is, what
1:05:16
did they put in? Okay. You know, who's regulating this?
1:05:19
And what, you know, so, oh, yeah, we want to
1:05:21
have, you know, impartial election advice. So what you said
1:05:26
is kind of scary. Well, people are going to use
1:05:27
their... chat bots to figure out who they should vote
1:05:30
for i think you're right i think a lot of
1:05:32
people this is the one thing that everyone that all
1:05:34
the politicians were concerned about and now it seems like
1:05:38
anthropic gets a pass like oh they're good guys they
1:05:40
put in uh they put in some let me see
1:05:42
if they tell us who the What information they put
1:05:44
in. Updated its algorithm late Thursday, voluntarily agreeing to those
1:05:48
kind of restrictions. We've further sharpened our section on elections,
1:05:53
focusing it specifically on disallowing the use of Claude to
1:05:57
deceive voters or disrupt elections. MPs will now spend the
1:06:01
next month or so hearing from more witnesses on this
1:06:05
topic before making recommendations to the Kearney government early in
1:06:08
the new year. Let me see. I know I have
1:06:12
this information somewhere. They use a specific... Voter information source.
1:06:18
Is there one that you recommend, Matt? You know, I
1:06:21
think iVoterGuide is a good one. Wait a minute. Wait
1:06:25
a minute. Is that the one that Elon Musk put
1:06:26
together that steals all your information? Is that the one,
1:06:29
man? Is that the one? No, I think it's a
1:06:31
Christian-based guide. iVoterGuide. I'm pretty sure that's what it is.
1:06:36
Yeah, this is here. It says it here. Turbo vote
1:06:38
run by the nonpartisan group Democracy Works. Oh, that sounds
1:06:44
nonpartisan. I'm sorry. Considering there are no democracies in the
1:06:49
Western Hemisphere right now. Let me see. Turbo vote. Even
1:06:54
that by itself sounds kind of iffy. Turbo vote. Let's
1:06:58
take a look. Let's see. democracy works all right do
1:07:02
they have anything about a boot they have an aboot
1:07:04
yes there's an aboot page let's see democracy works is
1:07:08
a non-partisan okay here we go democracy works helping americans
1:07:13
vote uh aboot who is uh leadership let's see who
1:07:16
the leadership is this is how you do it luis
1:07:19
lozoda Sonia Mohammed Glazer Gerald Lloyd There is one white
1:07:26
person here, Alexa Libre. Ali Valley board of directors let's
1:07:34
see i met her at a strip club one alley
1:07:36
valley i think that's what her name was uh let's
1:07:39
see you director of news and this is the board
1:07:42
uh brandon feldman director of news and civics partnerships youtube
1:07:49
um hayley berlant Founder and CEO of the Additive Agency,
1:07:53
so it's an ad agency, corrupt no matter what, one
1:07:57
way or the other. Stephen Goldsmith, Derek Bach, professor of
1:08:01
the practice of urban policy, director of the Innovations in
1:08:04
American Government Program, Harvard Kennedy School of Government. Seems like
1:08:08
they'd be straight down the middle. The Aspen Institute, former
1:08:12
executive VP, corporate treasurer of the Aspen Institute. This is
1:08:15
obvious. That's far left. Yeah. John Webb. I recognize that
1:08:19
name. Tanya Rice, assistant vice chancellor for advocacy, the engagement
1:08:25
Washington University. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, this just doesn't seem like
1:08:31
there will be very... And then what? If I was
1:08:36
sitting at home in front of my computer, I would
1:08:39
be looking up each one of those individuals. No, of
1:08:41
course not. That's how you do your own research. No,
1:08:45
you can't do that. You chase each one of those
1:08:47
down. Of course, we're not going to do that live
1:08:49
on the air. No, we can't have that. No. um
1:08:53
well let's just stick with ai for a second because
1:08:55
the funniest well it's not it's devastating of course for
1:08:59
these uh supermarkets in france again france i'm just saying
1:09:04
uh you know the uh there's one particular type of
1:09:08
thermostat that runs the refrigerators and they got hacked and,
1:09:12
and they, you know, turned up all refrigeration units in
1:09:16
about 400 supermarkets. So everything melted and spoiled. There are
1:09:22
people asking, you know, And why do refrigerators even go
1:09:26
up to 100 degrees? Believe it or not, they do
1:09:29
that at night to defrost. Okay. So, but this is,
1:09:33
ah, Dvorak would love it. A microservices architecture issue is
1:09:38
what is going on here. But of course, we have
1:09:40
to somehow spin that into AI. Aisle after aisle of
1:09:44
fridges and freezers totally empty. Mountains of foods tossed in
1:09:49
the trash. Entire sections of fresh and frozen food. and
1:09:53
food cleared out. All after a cyber attack crippled the
1:09:57
cooling systems in grocery stores across France. Reuters reports French
1:10:01
cybersecurity investigators are working to track the hackers who reportedly
1:10:06
cranked refrigerator temps at hundreds of stores, in some cases
1:10:11
as high as 122 degrees Fahrenheit. Fahrenheit. The CEO of
1:10:15
a French supermarket, Intermarché, telling this French broadcaster the attack
1:10:21
will likely cost millions of euros. Some of the fridges
1:10:24
and freezers were controlled by technology that France's cybersecurity agency
1:10:29
says had a vulnerability. According to Reuters, Danfoss, one of
1:10:34
the companies behind the technology, says the affected units were
1:10:37
old enough to not receive software or security updates or
1:10:41
running outdated firmware. One vulnerability in that software can now
1:10:46
attack every refrigerator in Europe. Cyber security experts mark just
1:10:51
that alone one vulnerable. So he's saying the vulnerability can
1:10:55
attack all the refer. No, no. The vulnerability makes all
1:10:59
these refrigerators vulnerable. But it's not like the refrigerator is
1:11:02
attacking other refrigerators. But here comes the twist. You see
1:11:05
an outdated firmware. One vulnerability in that software can now
1:11:09
attack every refrigerator. refrigerator in Europe. The fridges are at
1:11:13
war with each other. Cyber security expert Mark Rash says
1:11:16
as we rely more on technology in our daily lives,
1:11:20
the same kind of threat could put businesses and homes
1:11:23
here in the U.S. also at risk. We update our
1:11:26
phone from time to time. We update our computer from
1:11:29
time to time. But nobody's running around updating their doorbell.
1:11:33
and so because we don't update them they become vulnerable
1:11:37
to attack i've been talking about this for years this
1:11:39
all of this stuff particularly the chinese stuff it has
1:11:43
the same passwords you know even the flock cameras had
1:11:46
the same passwords the security of the internet of things
1:11:51
is so poor you know we've We had an 11-year-old
1:11:54
fridge. It was dying. You know, the wires in the
1:11:57
door were broken. The guy comes in. He says, yeah,
1:12:01
$2,000 for a new door. I'm like, no, I'll go
1:12:04
get a new fridge. He said, whatever you do, don't
1:12:07
get an LG. I said, why not? I said, no.
1:12:09
Well, two reasons. One, they're irreparable. They got all this
1:12:12
dumb technology in it. Two, they tend to blow up.
1:12:16
You know, there's a new refrigeration system that has been
1:12:19
implemented. And go look on YouTube. Refrigerator exploded. There's a
1:12:24
lot of this, not just LG. And but, you know,
1:12:27
so the new one comes in. I got it at
1:12:30
Costco. Great guys. They install it. Should we hook it
1:12:34
up to the Wi-Fi? I'm like, what? Well, for updates.
1:12:38
It's like, no. No, I'm good. Thank you. I'm good.
1:12:41
I don't need updates. I got a Samsung phone. You
1:12:45
know. After my beautiful flip phone broke, I dropped it,
1:12:49
of course. And I'm an Android. You're an Android guy.
1:12:52
Yes, I am. I'm the green bubble that everybody hates.
1:12:54
Everybody hates me, too. And I just start the phone
1:12:58
up. It's like. Hi, I'm your washing machine. We happen
1:13:01
to have a Samsung washing machine. Connect to me and
1:13:04
then you can, you know, for all kinds of handy.
1:13:06
No, no, I don't want. And how did it even?
1:13:10
No, no. I didn't put it on the. It's not.
1:13:13
It's, you know, Bluetooth is out. But even that, like,
1:13:15
how do I turn that off? These things are dumb.
1:13:18
How many times have you heard during a power outage?
1:13:21
I couldn't get into my house because of my Amazon
1:13:24
locks or whatever. Oh, man. We moved in here, and
1:13:29
the guy who had lived here, he had everything all
1:13:32
wired. All of this stuff was the locks, the garage.
1:13:37
Everything was connected. I ripped it all out. I'm like,
1:13:39
I don't want any of that stuff. Well, it's the
1:13:42
advantage of being poor like me. The only poor Republican
1:13:48
I know in Fredericksburg, ladies and gentlemen. You have to
1:13:51
knock on my door. And I know people are confused.
1:13:56
But, yeah, you have to actually knock. Where's the ding-dong?
1:14:02
Yeah, no. None of that. Our house is so small.
1:14:05
If someone steps onto the front porch, we can hear
1:14:07
them. I mean, it's... You're not living down by the
1:14:10
river in a van with you and Gail and the
1:14:12
cats? No, no. We live next to a pond. So
1:14:17
CNBC, who usually are good with their information because, you
1:14:20
know, it's like investors watch them and they need to
1:14:23
get some reasonable information. information. They're the ones that just
1:14:26
go off the rails with this. So stupid. France was
1:14:29
hit by an unprecedented cyber attack on Monday. With a
1:14:32
Brit for some reason. I don't know why they have
1:14:33
Brits. Monday. What do you think was attacked? Does it
1:14:36
say it on the screen? It does say it. Refrigeration
1:14:38
systems, fridges, at hundreds of French supermarkets were targeted overnight.
1:14:44
Now they come for the fridges, what are they going
1:14:46
to come for tomorrow? I mean, the air fryers? I
1:14:47
mean, who knows? But refrigeration systems at hundreds of French
1:14:51
supermarkets were targeted overnight with temperatures pushed as high as
1:14:54
50 degrees Celsius, spoiling food and triggering fires. The Paris
1:14:57
prosecutor's office called the incident
1:15:00
a large-scale attack, with Intermarché saying around 150 stores were
1:15:04
affected, whilst Cap4 and Monoprix were affected. Also reported disruptions.
1:15:08
Similar incidents were also reported in Spain, Portugal, Germany, and
1:15:13
France. And for more on the refrigerator hacking story, our
1:15:16
top journalists all over this one on CMBC.com. But isn't
1:15:19
that concerning? Now, listen. So it's a hacking story. You
1:15:23
know, it's. It's actually quite a good hack. I mean,
1:15:26
I'm sure that there's some dudes going, wow, high five.
1:15:28
That was pretty awesome. How stupid are those people? And
1:15:31
then this lady comes in. Isn't that seriously concerning? Because
1:15:35
you think about the last few weeks we've been through
1:15:37
about AI safety, how the robots could take over. Where
1:15:39
did AI safety and the robots come from all of
1:15:42
a sudden? That's right. Here it is. How the algorithm
1:15:44
could kill us all, whether they're going to kill us.
1:15:45
there's a 10% chance that humanity is wiped up. And
1:15:48
we're like, well, how does that happen? You have a
1:15:51
gentic AI that can get into refrigerated systems and affect...
1:15:54
Now all of a sudden, where's the report of the
1:15:58
agentic systems getting into the refrigerators? She's making it up.
1:16:03
They spoil fresh food. It's literally... saying that this is
1:16:07
what happened. How does it happen? You have a gentic
1:16:10
AI that can get into refrigerated systems and effectively spoil
1:16:14
fresh food, causing some sort of national food outage if
1:16:18
it got to a point where it was truly sophisticated
1:16:20
enough. She is literally saying that this was a gentic
1:16:23
AI now. It got in, it spoiled all the food.
1:16:26
I think she's just using all the the popular catchphrases
1:16:30
to get people to listen. I mean, she's gotten them
1:16:32
all tossed in there. It's disappointing from CNBC. That's just
1:16:36
one element. You start bringing together attacks on utilities, another
1:16:40
element, attacks on financial infrastructure. People can't get money. They
1:16:44
can't buy things if there's nothing to buy. So you
1:16:46
bring all these attacks together in a coordinated relationship way,
1:16:50
that is exactly how humans could be compromised. So AI
1:16:53
safety, I think, as you see it through this lens,
1:16:56
as we all think about food security that we've been
1:16:58
through in the COVID era, it's a serious issue. We're
1:17:00
all going to die! I was waiting for that. You
1:17:03
knew it was coming. Now, here comes the thing that
1:17:06
I was baffled by, because now they're doing a little
1:17:08
panel discussion, and what I just told you about these
1:17:11
commercial refrigerators, these numb nuts have no idea. Am I
1:17:14
missing something here? Am I missing something? Yes, you're missing
1:17:17
an American accent. The question is, why should a fridge
1:17:19
even be able to heat to 50 degrees Celsius? That's
1:17:23
mild oven, not a fridge. What on earth should it
1:17:26
be able to heat? Why should it have the function
1:17:28
to heat that much? Well, you can pay the big
1:17:30
bucks you ask the important questions. Well, if anyone knows,
1:17:33
I don't know if there are any fridge specials. Yes,
1:17:34
I know. It's like a tumble dryer that, you know,
1:17:37
washes and dries. It's like a tumble dryer. No, these
1:17:39
people are so dumb. Yeah, but when would you ever
1:17:42
need... Where's the producer on the show? Like, you know,
1:17:45
I was like, yeah... Hey, it's a defrosted night. When
1:17:49
we deliberately need to set the fridge to that high
1:17:52
temperature, it doesn't make sense to me. Oh, sorry. It's
1:17:55
a slightly tangential question, but I don't know. One that
1:17:58
goes to the heart of it, I think. Goes to
1:18:00
the heart of it. No, doesn't go to the heart
1:18:02
of anything. But he sounded good saying that. You've got
1:18:05
a British accent. You can get away with anything you
1:18:07
want. So this now ties into this blog post that
1:18:11
Anthropic wrote saying, well – You know, one day the
1:18:17
models that are so small, they'd be so powerful. I
1:18:20
think they mean the agents, but everyone says the models
1:18:22
because the model itself is not going to do anything
1:18:25
that they can self-replicate in your Internet of Things devices.
1:18:29
Have you been following this? I have a little bit,
1:18:33
but it's it's. It's way over my head. Oh, okay.
1:18:37
I'm sorry, Adam. It's so far over my head. Let's
1:18:40
see how scared you get. Anthropic is warning that small
1:18:45
AI models could soon spread themselves from one Internet-connected device
1:18:48
to another. That could include smart TVs, security cameras, and
1:18:52
other smart home devices. The company says this could create
1:18:55
AI buzzwords. Botnets, networks of infected devices that are difficult
1:19:00
to shut down. By the way, probably 80% of all
1:19:05
home routers are already compromised and part of botnets. There's
1:19:09
a likelihood of... probably 40% that your washing machine is
1:19:14
mining cryptocurrency as we speak. So this is nothing new.
1:19:19
But okay, now the models, not the agents, the models
1:19:22
themselves are going to self-replicate into a whole botnet. Anthropic
1:19:26
says that if AI models keep improving at their current
1:19:30
pace, they could be capable of doing this on their
1:19:33
own by the end of the year. But the company
1:19:35
has not demonstrated this kind of self-replication through commercial data
1:19:41
centers. So I want to bring in Jonas Guan, AI
1:19:44
researcher at the University of Toronto and Vector Institute. Thanks
1:19:48
for being here. Let's talk about Anthropic. It says small
1:19:51
AI models could soon copy themselves. across these internet connected
1:19:56
devices. How realistic is this threat? Good to be here.
1:20:01
Good to be here, Bralf. Thank you. I would say
1:20:03
that AI-driven worms, this kind of attack, has been a
1:20:06
known threat in the AI security community and is an
1:20:09
active area of research. Where's the security community? I want
1:20:13
to join this community. I need to learn more. That's
1:20:15
one of my primary areas of research. What Anthropic is
1:20:18
looking at is a nefarious variant that targets, like you
1:20:21
said, home devices. Now we have variants? You know, it's
1:20:25
almost like COVID, you know, a variant is here. And
1:20:29
they have the potential to proliferate around these devices and
1:20:34
cause a real threat. Now, luckily, our boy here. a
1:20:40
little smart and he's going to tell us that, okay,
1:20:42
you know, this is possible, but this is not what
1:20:45
Anthropic was showing. However, their research currently still involves several
1:20:50
steps of conjecture. Conjecture is code for bullcrap. Yeah, exactly.
1:20:54
We don't know what we're talking about. It's bullcrap. The
1:20:58
main thing is that in their experiments, the models were
1:21:01
simply given access to the devices. There's no hacking involved.
1:21:05
They were given direct access, and what they demonstrated was
1:21:09
the self-replication part. The other part was that involves conjecture
1:21:13
was that they actually used a larger, more capable model
1:21:16
that does not fit on these home devices. And they
1:21:20
had the hypotheses that as these models become more capable,
1:21:23
over time, even the smaller ones that can fit on
1:21:26
your home devices would possess similar capabilities to self-replicate. What
1:21:32
I would say is this. Does an anthropics variant of
1:21:35
the AI worm pose an immediate threat to society today
1:21:38
or perhaps in a few months. I don't believe so
1:21:41
at this time, but I would also say Is this
1:21:45
research and AI-driven worm research in general sufficient to warrant
1:21:49
the security community to be very concerned and start preemptively
1:21:54
addressing the situation, coming up with defenses before it impacts
1:21:58
society? Absolutely, yes. Yes. Unplug all that nonsense. You don't
1:22:02
need your stuff connected to the Internet. You know? I
1:22:05
have one. There is one attack vector I have because
1:22:09
of Phoebe. Is she still here? Yeah. Because of Phoebe.
1:22:13
I'm sure she's laying down. Oh, yeah. She's back there
1:22:15
behind me on the dog couch. We have a shark
1:22:20
robot vacuum. Mm-hmm. And I know it's a security risk.
1:22:26
I mean, I fully expect that thing one day to
1:22:28
just go spinning and try and slice my head off.
1:22:31
But it's worth it in this case. But nothing else,
1:22:34
man. But all this stuff has poor security, very poor
1:22:37
security. And it's really intended to make it easy for
1:22:40
people to install. You know, I have been exposed and
1:22:45
you have been to two apocalyptic scenarios since we were
1:22:50
born. And I know we've had this discussion, I think,
1:22:53
a month ago or so. But I'm not even it's
1:22:55
the boy who cried wolf. I'm not in the least
1:22:58
bit concerned about runaway A.I. I'm not. I'm not concerned
1:23:03
about it a bit. I think it's going to be
1:23:06
an amazing tool. Yes. And it's all this self-replication. I'm
1:23:11
just not buying it all. So you're not going to
1:23:15
vote Democrat. I'm not going to vote Democrat. That's right.
1:23:18
Because you've got to be against the data centers, man.
1:23:21
The data centers. I'm with you. I mean – What
1:23:23
was it? There was a kind of shopping story about
1:23:26
this because, you know, this is what everybody is worried
1:23:30
about is AI is now going to. And it's not
1:23:32
like it's going to. It already is going to price.
1:23:36
goods and services based upon who you are and what
1:23:39
you can afford, which means if I just mask as
1:23:42
Matt Long, I'll get the cheapest stuff anywhere because all
1:23:45
the bots know. Matt's so poor he's got an Android.
1:23:50
The price tag is at risk of extinction. So says
1:23:54
the CEO of an economic policy think tank, adding that
1:23:58
artificial intelligence threatens to upend traditional prices for you and
1:24:03
I. Retailers are starting to test new ways of pricing
1:24:06
based on who you are, where you live, and a
1:24:09
myriad of other insights gleaned from AI. It's an approach
1:24:13
that's informally known as personalized or surveillance pricing. CBS Money
1:24:18
Watch reporter Megan Cerullo joins us now. I mean, it
1:24:21
kind of sounds like... your browser history and then you
1:24:26
get the ads that pop up but now it affects
1:24:29
the price that you could pay so what is changing
1:24:31
in the environment that's making companies consider this a lot
1:24:35
is changing we've had these fixed transparent prices in place
1:24:40
for 150 years before that haggling and bargaining was actually
1:24:44
the norm a seller would charge you based on only
1:24:47
150 years we have fixed what they do before that
1:24:49
whether they think that's what she's saying haggling and and
1:24:52
haggling haggling and going in and saying yeah i'm not
1:24:56
gonna pay that best price yeah best there you go
1:24:59
i think we're gonna get back to that era and
1:25:01
i'll tell you why on whether you were rich or
1:25:03
poor because I wanted to extract as much money from
1:25:06
you as they thought they could. But it ended up
1:25:09
being inefficient to do that in department stores, which is
1:25:12
why the price tag was introduced. But now with AI,
1:25:15
it can collect so many insights about you and then
1:25:19
actually crunch those numbers because it's intelligent. It has a
1:25:22
brain. It has a brain! What it thinks you will
1:25:27
pay... based on everything it knows about you. So this
1:25:31
contract between businesses and consumers that has historically reflected the
1:25:35
laws of supply and demand is really at risk of
1:25:39
extinction thanks to AI. Well, this, of course, is nothing
1:25:43
new because Uber has been doing that to me ever
1:25:46
since I started using Uber. I've heard you say that.
1:25:49
And it just, it's like. Tina and I would, when
1:25:53
we lived in Austin, we'd be down on the street.
1:25:57
She's on her phone. I'm on my phone. I would
1:25:59
order the Uber and I'd cancel. And then she would
1:26:02
order the Uber and her price was cheaper. Same spot,
1:26:05
same destination. She'd get a cheaper price. And so, you
1:26:10
know, that could only be because, you know, oh, it's
1:26:13
curry. You know, I think we've all been used to
1:26:16
this but never paid any attention to it. Anybody that's
1:26:19
ever gone third world traveling or been on a cruise
1:26:22
and you get off at the port or something like
1:26:25
that and you go into the little shops or whatever
1:26:29
– Man, they spot you as a Westerner and a
1:26:31
tourist. Boom. So, yeah, it's like, oh, that necklace, $100.
1:26:36
But, you know, if you know a local who will
1:26:38
go in and buy it for you, it's $5. So
1:26:41
we've actually been exposed to that. I did a trip
1:26:45
with my younger brother in 2008 in his 12-year-old. year
1:26:51
old nephew at the time and i kept telling him
1:26:53
i said look we you can't look like a million
1:26:56
dollars when we get on the plane where don't you
1:26:59
know we're getting we're doing backpack traditional backpack and we
1:27:04
did paris and and and madagascar and cairo egypt and
1:27:09
doha did you go to doha we did not go
1:27:11
to doha You've got to throw Doha in. But the
1:27:14
thing was, and so they show up that day at
1:27:16
the airport. I met him at the airport, and my
1:27:19
brother had just gotten a $200 haircut. He's wearing the
1:27:23
nicest clothes. My little nephew, all brand-new clothes, all in
1:27:26
brand-new bags. They look like a million dollars. And it
1:27:30
was like we're just suckers. We're everywhere. You walk in,
1:27:34
it's like, oh, that guy's got money. And so I
1:27:37
was glad to be with my brother who had money.
1:27:40
That was a nice experience. But, oh, yeah, pricing on
1:27:43
what you can afford doesn't surprise me at all. The
1:27:47
difference is, and Walmart is a big purveyor of this.
1:27:51
The surveillance part is pretty amazing. So Walmart, first of
1:27:55
all, if you get an app, you might as well
1:27:57
just be opening up your life to whoever is running
1:28:00
that app. Godcaster has an app. The amount of stuff
1:28:04
you could do surveil and track and do on each
1:28:07
individual user is astounding. And it's basically built into the
1:28:12
Google SDK, that software development kit, you can forget that.
1:28:17
Meta has one, you know, and then you can connect
1:28:20
it to their social graph, all these things. And we've
1:28:22
willingly done that, the ULAs, you know, we've willingly given
1:28:26
all this information. Walmart goes a step further. They use
1:28:30
flock cameras in the parking lot. They have Bluetooth detectors.
1:28:37
They detect the sensors in your tires, not in your
1:28:40
car, because I'm sure You know, you just had that
1:28:43
beat up truck. You got no. It's like, yeah, it
1:28:46
looks like there's air in there. It's good. I can
1:28:49
drive. And they're really at the forefront of this. What
1:28:53
would this look like? I'll give you a couple examples.
1:28:56
Lindsay Owens, who's the CEO of Groundwork Collaborative. And by
1:28:59
the way, this is CBS. So, you know, people go,
1:29:01
you know, this is reputable. The Tiffany News Network here.
1:29:06
Consumer Advocacy Group looked into Walmart's patents and found that
1:29:10
in one case, they've applied for sales. smart cart technology
1:29:15
that tracks what shoppers put in their baskets. And so
1:29:18
if you're buying tuna, for example, It knows that, and
1:29:23
it then has the ability to say, well, this person's
1:29:27
likely to buy mayonnaise, so let's jack up the price
1:29:29
of mayonnaise, too. Is she groaning in the background? I
1:29:34
thought that was you. No, no, no. I was looking
1:29:36
at you. No, that's her. Okay. That's the co-host. Buy
1:29:39
mayonnaise, so let's jack up the price of mayonnaise, too.
1:29:43
Wow, she's a staffer. It's not in place yet, and
1:29:45
Walmart insists it doesn't use AI to charge consumers different
1:29:49
prices based on who they are. But it has the
1:29:53
ability to. I could be paying $2 for mayonnaise. You
1:29:57
could be paying $10. That's just a rough estimate.
1:30:00
So then she has an idea and this is okay.
1:30:04
Good try, but no, but it feels like people aren't
1:30:07
going to like this. I don't like it. And one
1:30:09
easy solution is like, okay, don't buy the thing. That's
1:30:12
too expensive if you have the know-how. Wow. Well, there's
1:30:16
a concept. Don't buy the thing if it's too expensive.
1:30:19
If you watch The Price is Right. How can consumers...
1:30:21
If you watch The Price is Right, then you'll be
1:30:23
well-informed. If you... I just caught that. Come on down.
1:30:28
Did they ever do a thing, a jar of mayonnaise
1:30:31
on the prices? I don't know. Probably. What's your basis?
1:30:35
You know the price if you watch the prices right.
1:30:37
How can consumers turn this experiment around? That's a good
1:30:41
question. That's exactly what they should do is turn the
1:30:43
experiment around on businesses. So if you're shopping online, call
1:30:48
a friend in another business. house or apartment or even
1:30:52
state and ask them, say, I'm looking at this shirt
1:30:56
from this company. Can you tell me what price you're
1:30:58
seeing? So that's a different kind of comparison shopping than
1:31:01
we're used to. You can pay with cash. That's a
1:31:04
way to avoid the tech altogether. Hello, channeling Dvorak. It's
1:31:08
a virtual private network. What? You can use a virtual,
1:31:14
let's see, a virtual private network, a VPN. What will
1:31:17
this do for me? The tech altogether. Use a virtual
1:31:20
private network to... erase your browsing history. I thought it'll
1:31:26
erase your browser history. No, lady, that's not what a
1:31:30
VPN does. CBS News, everybody. And really consider how much
1:31:34
information you share with these AI agents that promised to
1:31:37
do shopping on your behalf. We've seen them pop up.
1:31:41
But Lindsay Owens said... It's not exactly clear who they're
1:31:44
working for. We think of them as tools that are
1:31:47
combing the internet or combing the site for deals and
1:31:49
coupons for us. But if Sparky is working for Walmart,
1:31:53
that's what it named its own agentic AI shopping assistant.
1:31:57
Why wouldn't it want to get you and maybe steer
1:32:00
you to more expensive products? Yeah. Sparky, bad sparky. Okay.
1:32:06
So, yes, of course, Walmart's own AI is not going
1:32:11
to be your friend, but the future is coming. And
1:32:13
this is what they're all afraid of. You're going to
1:32:17
have your own agent. You will control the agent. You
1:32:21
will run the agent. The agent will run on your
1:32:23
own system, your own phone. You'll connect to your computer
1:32:27
at home. It's coming, and it will do comparison shopping
1:32:31
for you. And it will negotiate with Walmart versus Target.
1:32:36
I think these guys are, when they say 10%, we
1:32:40
all get obliterated, they're talking about themselves. Already, like Muse.
1:32:47
You installed Muse, didn't you? I did. So Muse. It
1:32:51
said, hey, shall I check to see what subscriptions you
1:32:55
have on Roku? It asked me that. Tina and I
1:32:58
have been cutting back for obvious reasons. She's like, do
1:33:02
you subscribe to all kinds of things? You don't even
1:33:05
know what it is. No, I don't. Well, yeah, she's
1:33:07
kind of right. And who knew I still had a
1:33:09
Flickr account? Yeah. pro accounts. Do they even exist anymore?
1:33:15
Yeah, they do. They do. So it went in and
1:33:18
it found all these channels that I, you know, I
1:33:20
thought, oh, I want to watch that, subscribe to it,
1:33:22
you know, $9.99 a month. And it said, well, shall
1:33:25
I unsubscribe for you? Well, yeah. So this is, that's
1:33:28
a big business, you know, repeat subscriptions is kind of
1:33:32
the holy grail of retail and technology, really. How can
1:33:37
I get someone to on a cloud account for x
1:33:40
y or z what is your experience now you installed
1:33:43
muse because i advocated for it absolutely and uh are
1:33:47
you mad are you mad no i'm not it has
1:33:50
done some pretty amazing things i put it through its
1:33:54
tasks on the first day um but it has i
1:33:57
have to start by saying the biggest issue Was not
1:34:01
with Muse, but was with my wife. And, you know,
1:34:05
there is that continuum. Was Gail unhappy about you installing
1:34:10
a robot? Well, you know, I was going to say
1:34:14
there's this continuum between AI is God and AI is
1:34:19
Satan, right? And AI is… Somewhere in the middle. So
1:34:24
down the middle there is, you know, as that pendulum
1:34:27
swings, and her pendulum is leaning towards, not a lot
1:34:31
of the way, but leaning towards the AI as Satan.
1:34:34
Okay. And so she's been really nervous about it, so
1:34:37
I tried to, I did a couple of really awesome
1:34:39
things. One of the first things I did was I
1:34:41
had it go through eight hours of time. testimony that
1:34:46
there is no transcript for from four years ago up
1:34:49
at the Capitol. And I said, I need the moment
1:34:51
when I speak. Mm hmm. And I got three minutes
1:34:54
out of eight hours. Did you give it a YouTube
1:34:57
link? No, I just said go find it. And, of
1:35:01
course, it went to TLO and it found the videos.
1:35:05
And then it came back and said, there's no transcript
1:35:08
for this one, so I may have to make one.
1:35:12
And it said, this may take a while. And I
1:35:15
checked back a couple hours later, and it was still
1:35:18
working on it. The next morning I got up, and
1:35:21
I had a nice little note that said, here's your
1:35:24
clip. You spoke at exactly this point in time, and
1:35:27
it sent me a link that right there where I
1:35:30
speak up. Now, I had already spent. A couple of
1:35:34
hours zipping through there at high speed, eight hours trying
1:35:38
to find myself, and then... I let Robot do it
1:35:43
overnight. You called it Robot? I call it Robot. I
1:35:46
call it It. It. I do not. It has not
1:35:49
been humanized. I designed my robot at first, and it
1:35:54
sent me, and I said, I want a 50s style
1:35:58
robot, something like from a 50s movie. Well, what it
1:36:02
gave me. gave me had arms and legs and eyes
1:36:05
and a mouth. And, I just went right back and
1:36:08
I said, you know, take the human – I'm losing
1:36:10
a word – anthropomorphic. Anthropomorphic. Yeah. I said, take all
1:36:15
the anthropomorphic features off of there. And I said, okay,
1:36:18
no problem. And it took the arms and legs, but
1:36:20
it kept the eyes. So I decided, okay, you can
1:36:23
have the eyes. You can have the two little black
1:36:27
dots. Yeah. But having it go through and find that
1:36:31
piece of testimony that I wanted to find, I would
1:36:36
have given up on it. And so it did that
1:36:39
convince Gail. Was she? No, nothing. No, she is every.
1:36:44
I wish I wish I could show you the look
1:36:46
on her face. I know Gail pretty well. I can
1:36:49
imagine. So it was so. But the funny thing is,
1:36:52
last night we were talking about something and she Googled
1:36:55
something. And I said, oh, so you used your robot.
1:36:59
she goes no i used google and i said i
1:37:01
said your google robot is what you used and then
1:37:05
it was like one of those the looks that you
1:37:08
don't want to get from your wife was it cold
1:37:10
sleeping outside too bad i got a lot of cats
1:37:14
i cuddle with the cats but it has been and
1:37:18
i heard uh i've heard people on, I've heard you
1:37:22
talk about people on this program where it's saved them
1:37:24
time. Of course. And that absolutely, now that I know
1:37:28
that exists, I've And that's going to save me during
1:37:31
this next legislative session. So here's the next tip for
1:37:37
everybody who uses Muse. I only advocate for two, Muse
1:37:42
and GrokBot. GrokBot is kind of cool because you can
1:37:45
set up. Now, you get your own computer in the
1:37:47
cloud, which is obviously not your computer. This is part
1:37:50
of the problem. This is why it has to eventually
1:37:53
move to your own device. You can ask for all
1:37:56
of its files, and you should download those because you
1:38:01
can literally put that into any robot. When they come
1:38:04
to your when, you know, when you have the robot
1:38:06
at home or on your own devices, not connected, you
1:38:09
also won't have to pay for it. And your robot
1:38:11
will kind of come back to life as it was.
1:38:15
And they're called markdown files. If you say to Muse,
1:38:18
give me all your all all your markdown files. It
1:38:22
should give them to you. You can also say the
1:38:24
.md files. It's marked down .md, like a .doc, only
1:38:28
.md. And it has hundreds of files, depending on how
1:38:32
long you've used it. And this is... The profile it
1:38:35
builds of you, which some people are saying, well, this
1:38:38
is horrible. It knows everything about your friends and all
1:38:41
this stuff. And well, that's the feature of it. You
1:38:45
actually. So I'll give. So I just asked my robot
1:38:47
and I use Muse for, you know, just the calendar
1:38:50
stuff and all that. And I said, show me your
1:38:53
markdown file on Matt Long. Let me tell you what
1:38:57
it knows about you. Here's what I have on Matt.
1:39:00
Oh, I don't have a last name on file for
1:39:02
him, so if long is his last name, that's new
1:39:04
to me. Matt writes as FBGMatt, and he has your
1:39:08
correct email address. He's a follower of your shows, WGTDT
1:39:12
and No Agenda, and you've mentioned him on air. On
1:39:15
September 30th, he emailed asking you to connect him with
1:39:18
the Beef Baron so we could interview him about the
1:39:21
weird beef market offering to promote the ranch and meat
1:39:24
in return. You're a meat dealer. You replied that evening
1:39:29
with Cole of KNC Cattle's contact info and told them
1:39:32
to say you sent him. He'd started using Muse two
1:39:35
days ago before and named an AI-generated Baroque portrait of
1:39:39
his cat, Robot, which you both got a kick out
1:39:42
of. You close with, much love, brother, which was your
1:39:45
own choice. Is long his last name? If so, I'll
1:39:48
add it. Wow. Wow. Our bots are communicating through text
1:39:52
message with each other. I guarantee you. I guarantee you.
1:39:55
And you misunderstood the Baroque cat thing, as did Muse
1:39:59
because of your misunderstanding of it. And Muse picked up
1:40:04
on that. And so, yeah. What did I misunderstand? Well,
1:40:08
my robot is a robot. It's like a 50s. Where
1:40:11
did the Baroque past portrait come from? Okay, so that's
1:40:14
where I wanted to play with because I always wanted
1:40:16
to do these art things like for art generators for
1:40:18
your show. And I said, well, these guys are doing
1:40:21
it. I mean, if I should be able to do
1:40:22
that. You know, I should be able to do that.
1:40:24
And so. Get some street cred over at No. agenda
1:40:27
that's right and so that was one of the first
1:40:30
project i asked it to do and i said give
1:40:32
me a um a venus de milo with my black
1:40:36
cat who is a tuxedo cat and i said give
1:40:41
it put it in a venus de milo well The
1:40:45
first thing that came back was a beautiful Venus de
1:40:48
Milo is, of course, a statue. And so it came
1:40:51
back, and my cat had... a beautiful woman's body and
1:40:58
fur complete with breasts and everything they were kind of
1:41:02
cute but i said all right the cat needs to
1:41:06
be more cat and less thing and uh i think
1:41:09
then i um and it never really turned out i
1:41:12
could have tweaked it some more but i had fun
1:41:14
with it and uh so yeah but then when I
1:41:16
spoke to you about it in that email you said
1:41:19
something about my robot looking like a broke a baroque
1:41:23
cat and so it picked up oh yeah that's exactly
1:41:26
where it came from that's interesting do you email my
1:41:30
gmail is that is that how we come in that
1:41:32
must be Yes, because I don't have it connected to
1:41:34
my curry.com email for good reason. Yeah, I have your
1:41:38
secret email address. Oh, yeah, that's where all the junk
1:41:41
goes to. Sign up with Google. Okay, it's going there.
1:41:45
It's all going there. I never look at it because
1:41:47
it does... auto forward stuff from certain people to my
1:41:51
curry.com email so i have a it's air gaps man
1:41:54
yeah the robot can't get into my curry.com email but
1:41:57
download all of your md files you'll see something called
1:42:02
a soul.md which is kind of creepy because it explains
1:42:07
what the robot is it's um uh it's for lack
1:42:11
of a better term, its character, its personality, and you
1:42:14
can rewrite that. So mine start off, you know, it
1:42:18
starts off with you are not. This is the stock
1:42:21
install. You are not a chat bot. I'm like, oh,
1:42:24
that's good. You are becoming someone. I'm like, no, erase.
1:42:28
You are a robot whose only job is to help
1:42:31
Adam with his day to day activities. Yeah. You download
1:42:37
that. All of these things, you put that into any
1:42:41
other robot, it will come back to life more or
1:42:44
less in the same way. So that's your information. Store
1:42:49
it. Keep it yourself. Yeah, it's good to have. It's
1:42:51
good to have that copy so you can go anywhere.
1:42:53
You're not tied to anybody. I do have an interesting
1:42:58
look at Muse. I'm a southern boy. I was raised
1:43:02
with manners. You say yes, ma'am, and yes, sir. You
1:43:05
say thank you and please. Mr. Matt. That's right. And
1:43:08
I am real. That is ingrained in me. And... It's
1:43:13
funny when I'm outside of Texas and I have my
1:43:15
friends and I say, yes, ma'am, in a conversation and
1:43:18
they look at me like I'm bonkers. I went to
1:43:20
open a door for a gal once up in the
1:43:22
northwest and she thought I was trying to get shotgun
1:43:25
before her. I mean, I still stand up when a
1:43:28
woman comes to the table. Yes, you do. And I
1:43:31
get the – You embarrass all of us. Yes. All
1:43:34
of us. All the men. The strangest looks from people.
1:43:37
Yeah, men are going like, you douchebag. What are you
1:43:39
doing? And then a woman will come back, and then
1:43:42
they're like, If I stand up now, now I look
1:43:44
like I'm a real idiot because I'm copying Adam. It's
1:43:47
like, but that was my mom. She baked that into
1:43:50
my brain, man. I do that. So anyway, so the
1:43:54
very biggest issue, and this is like now three weeks
1:43:59
on Muse. Adam, I want to say please, and I
1:44:02
want to say thank you. Oh, you're doing it to
1:44:05
the robot? No, I'm not. But it's so ingrained in
1:44:09
me that when I give it a command, I'm thinking
1:44:13
my thought is, please look up this testimony. I kid
1:44:17
you. It is so – and I'll sit there with
1:44:20
my finger on the P and I'll go, wait a
1:44:22
minute, no. And then I want to say thank you.
1:44:26
Or this is inside of me. When I ask it
1:44:31
to do a really big, long task, I almost feel
1:44:34
like I should apologize and say, I know this is
1:44:38
going to be hard, but would you mind going back
1:44:40
– I haven't used any of that language, but it
1:44:43
is three weeks in. I'm still like withdrawing from politeness.
1:44:48
Interesting. I'm going through detox, politeness detox with my robot.
1:44:53
And it is it's very strange. It is very strange.
1:44:56
It took me a little bit, but I weaned myself
1:44:58
off of that instead of selfless.
1:45:00
Can you look up? No, just look up. Look up.
1:45:03
That's right. Do this, do that. And sometimes just that's
1:45:06
why I call it robot. Just preface it. Robot, do
1:45:09
this, robot, do that. You know, the Anthropic came out
1:45:13
with new terms of services for their Claude robot, which
1:45:17
I don't recommend using for this kind of stuff. I
1:45:21
have no experience with this. I don't like those guys,
1:45:23
honestly. And in the new terms of services, you are
1:45:27
not allowed to use abusive language towards their models. I
1:45:31
mean, that's sick. That is sick, man. These people are
1:45:34
sick in the head. That's bad. Now, good news. The
1:45:39
stuff that I hated the most were the chatbots. People
1:45:41
were like, you hated AI, now you're all in. Well,
1:45:44
no, that was before agents. It was chatbots that were
1:45:47
sucking people in. And the worst offender was character.ai. And
1:45:53
they had, you know, cartoon characters, famous characters, also Jesus
1:45:57
and Moses. I'm like, no, no, you can't. This is
1:46:00
not good. People are getting sucked into this. Well, good
1:46:04
news. Character.ai, an AI chatbot which faced multiple lawsuits over
1:46:10
teen suicides and copyright issues, filed for bankruptcy on Monday.
1:46:14
In a statement, Character.ai said it had voluntarily filed for
1:46:18
Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection in the U.S. bankruptcy court for
1:46:22
the District of Delaware. The AI company also said it
1:46:25
entered into a bankruptcy. to an agreement with Disney, which
1:46:28
will serve as the initial bidder, making a $20 million
1:46:31
offer for a non-exclusive perpetual license to some of Character
1:46:35
AI's intellectual property. So, The bid comes after Disney accused
1:46:40
the company of using its copyrighted characters without permission last
1:46:43
year. The chatbot allegedly impersonated characters like Elsa and Peter
1:46:48
Parker and generated responses that incorporated these characters' backstories. In
1:46:53
2025, it was hit with multiple lawsuits after children died
1:46:56
or attempted suicide after interacting with its chatbot. It initially
1:47:01
fought the lawsuits by arguing that the chat bot's responses
1:47:04
were protected by the First Amendment, but eventually agreed to
1:47:08
settle several lawsuits. Yeah, so these guys. And also, it's
1:47:11
too expensive. You know, this is way too expensive. People
1:47:15
don't want to pay for this. They want it for
1:47:17
free. All of that's going to end, too, by the
1:47:19
way. So will your muse? It's going to wind up
1:47:21
costing you 20 bucks a month. Do you think so?
1:47:23
Yeah. Oh, yeah. What about these ones, and you've mentioned
1:47:27
them before that you can download. You said, hey, give
1:47:30
this one to your nephew and have them download it
1:47:32
into an old laptop. Well, no, that's a little different.
1:47:37
Okay. That's a whole operating system. Okay. So I like
1:47:41
Omarchi, O-M-A-R-C-H-Y. I looked it up. Okay. And so that's
1:47:47
what everything here is running on. So there's no more
1:47:50
spyware from Microsoft. It was funny. I was helping Mike
1:47:54
Holbrook out. Man, I love this guy. He came over
1:47:58
here and said, he's 81. He said, I need a
1:48:00
little bit of help with my device. He's got an
1:48:03
iPhone. He's got an iPad. And he had a laptop.
1:48:06
And first of all, I mean, I can't even understand
1:48:09
Apple's operating. iOS, I don't understand that anymore. I wish
1:48:13
an Apple product manager could watch how people struggle with
1:48:17
this stuff. There's no filing system. There's no folders. All
1:48:21
that's just gone. But they said, I have a couple
1:48:23
questions on my laptop. He opens the laptop. I'm like,
1:48:26
that's Linux Mint. He said, yeah. Yeah. I said, well,
1:48:29
how did you get that? He said, I took it
1:48:31
to a guy here in town. I said, I hate
1:48:33
Microsoft. It's always trying to sell me something. It's popping
1:48:36
up stuff. I said, take it all off. He's running
1:48:39
LibreOffice. And I was astounded. I'm like, wow, that's some
1:48:44
deep, deep penetration from Linux Mint. I say that. That
1:48:50
if you have an old laptop and you got a
1:48:52
young person in your home, give them, you know, load
1:48:55
the load. You can download a March. You put it
1:48:57
on the USB stick. Say, here, go install this on
1:49:00
this laptop. It'll give the child a lifetime education of
1:49:05
how computers work. And it's it's not going to trip
1:49:08
them up. And you know what? Have them download Muse.
1:49:11
If they're having trouble, Muse will help them. You can
1:49:14
then have these robots. The operating system is kind of
1:49:18
built for robots to help you. And then instead of
1:49:21
Well, if only I had an app to do that,
1:49:23
you can just tell the robot in this operating system,
1:49:26
build me that, and it will build it for you.
1:49:28
This whole system I have here, I built with robots
1:49:32
on Omarchi. It's a revolution. This is the revolution. But
1:49:36
it's not for everybody. We're not there yet because people
1:49:39
are lazy. Okay. Don't want to do anything. But you
1:49:41
see those boxes over there? All robots. Yeah, you got
1:49:44
some cool robots. I like the tall one with the
1:49:47
blue eyes. They're just boxes, Matt. They're just computers. Okay,
1:49:53
okay. That's running everything for me. I run the empire
1:49:56
on that. Wow. If you unplug it, I'm screwed. There's
1:50:00
a point of vulnerability. But it's behind Bulletproof glass So
1:50:07
I have to tell you You mentioned that Muse helping
1:50:10
you with Omarchi Mmhmm I have been using Adobe Audition
1:50:15
for a long time. Oh, you found the Vibe cloning.
1:50:20
No, I haven't found that. But there's a process I
1:50:23
go through that usually takes about an hour when I
1:50:27
do interviews off-site. So I bring it home. I've got
1:50:31
it in a thumb drive or my laptop, and I
1:50:33
put it over. and put it over and I start
1:50:35
playing with it. And I just knew there had to
1:50:38
be a quicker way to do what I'm doing. And
1:50:41
I opened up Muse on my phone, or actually I
1:50:44
opened it up on my computer, popped up two screens,
1:50:47
and I said, now tell me how to do this.
1:50:50
And I'm telling you, within five minutes, I took a
1:50:53
project that normally takes an hour, and I'm pretty good
1:50:57
at it. And so in an hour, that's what it
1:50:59
takes. I was done in less than 10 minutes. And
1:51:02
this is audio or visual? All audio. And next time,
1:51:06
try this. Just give Muse the file. Tell him what
1:51:09
you want it to do. Okay. It will do it
1:51:12
for you. Okay. You're going to, and it's going to,
1:51:15
and Gail will be delighted. You know why? Because you're
1:51:18
going to cook dinner. You say, baby, I'm doing this
1:51:21
with the time that Mew saved me. My robot is
1:51:25
bringing us closer together. Come on, baby. Come on, Dale.
1:51:27
That won't work because I cook already. Yes. You are
1:51:32
an international man of mystery. Well, I'll tell you what.
1:51:36
When Gail and I first got married, I told her
1:51:38
I was allergic to fresh-cut grass. Guess who's in the
1:51:42
game? Does Gail mow the grass? She has for 26
1:51:46
years. And she doesn't know? Oh, yeah, she does. It's
1:51:50
kind of funny. But, yeah, I do break. out in
1:51:53
spots but yeah she uh yeah that's why i pulled
1:51:56
up into your yard and i'm thinking you need to
1:51:59
let tina know to get to work out there you
1:52:01
know you got some tall grass out there dude i
1:52:04
actually i actually employ eric you have a yard boy
1:52:08
don't you eric who works for paul uh hardcraft who's
1:52:12
the septic guy and eric's like Hey, Mr. Adam, good
1:52:17
old Texas young man. It's like, I want to start
1:52:20
a business. I'm going to. buy my own lawnmower. He's
1:52:24
like, do you think I could, we have three acres,
1:52:26
I think here. Can I mow your lawn? I said,
1:52:28
yeah, man. I said, value for value. And so he
1:52:31
was done. He says, okay. And he gave me a
1:52:33
price. Like, okay, that's the price or whatever, you know,
1:52:36
that's worth it to me. And he's been coming. And
1:52:39
He always is thinking of me. He's like, hey, boss,
1:52:41
is it going to rain? So maybe next weekend. No,
1:52:45
but no, I do the pool myself, though. Okay, no
1:52:49
pool boy. We had Danny, the pool doctor, but he
1:52:52
went blind. something yeah chlorine i don't know no he
1:52:57
has i hope he's still alive i mean i kept
1:53:00
texting him like you okay well i can see out
1:53:03
of one eye now and he's an alt he's a
1:53:06
he's a og german and it's very hard to find
1:53:09
someone to do a pool so i just like screw
1:53:10
it i'll just i can backwash There you go. I'm
1:53:13
sure I can backwash. Have you seen our new spokeshole
1:53:17
at the White House? I have seen her once, and
1:53:21
I've seen three minutes of her, and I don't like
1:53:25
her already. I just don't. She's not doing very well.
1:53:30
Man, her first day on the job was just, why
1:53:33
don't you like her? Well, first of all, on her
1:53:36
first day on the job, she read every single word
1:53:40
she said, which were all natural things you should say.
1:53:44
You walk in and say, man, it's my first day.
1:53:47
I'm so glad to be here, and I'm looking forward
1:53:49
to working with you guys. That kind of speech, I'm
1:53:52
sure you have it here. But she read every word
1:53:55
of it, and I said, oh, this... This girl's going
1:53:57
to have a hard time. She needs to borrow Duda's
1:54:01
binder, the folder. What's her name? The cute little black
1:54:06
lesbian that worked for Duda. Duda. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. Kareem, yeah.
1:54:13
Kareem, yeah. She had a folder. She was a pro
1:54:17
at that. And so I hope this lady does. Jen
1:54:19
Psaki. And who was before Jen Psaki? It was a
1:54:22
Victoria Newland. Those are the women who had the folders
1:54:27
with the I mean, they the Democrat White House spokesholes.
1:54:31
They were good. Oh, yeah. They had an answer for
1:54:34
everything. And then what's her name? Kaylee? No, not Kaylee.
1:54:38
Who was the last girl? Who just left? Oh, yeah,
1:54:42
yeah, yeah, yeah. I forget her name. The one who
1:54:44
married the guy 45 years older than her or something.
1:54:47
Is that true? Oh, he is. He's, well, not 45.
1:54:49
He's 35 years older than her. Oh, really? Oh, yeah.
1:54:53
I didn't know that. That's a little bit strange, but
1:54:56
I really liked her. She had a habit of bouncing
1:55:00
on the balls of her feet. Yes. When she talked.
1:55:03
Carolyn Levitt. Carolyn Levitt. There you go. Love it. Yeah,
1:55:07
she always kind of – it was so funny. She
1:55:09
would emphasize something by stepping up. And she'd grow an
1:55:12
inch. Oh, yeah. That's a good observation. Yeah. So, yeah,
1:55:16
I really liked her, and I guess now she's going
1:55:18
to be working at Fox. Oh, yeah. I'm shocked. It's
1:55:21
where you go. Here's CNN, of course, reporting. very negatively
1:55:27
on this poor woman. It is day three on the
1:55:29
job for the new White House. I'm sorry. It's the
1:55:30
Vanderbilt Anderson Pooper. That's not just CNN. It is day
1:55:34
three on the job for the new White House Press
1:55:36
Secretary Katie Zakaria. She has only had the one press
1:55:38
briefing, but the online memes which it has spawned are
1:55:42
numerous. One White House insider called her first briefing brutal.
1:55:46
It was just... part of it. With Venezuela. Enthusiastic, hardworking
1:56:10
Americans are lining up and packing arenas to support President
1:56:15
Trump and Republicans. This is bad. Yeah, if she couldn't
1:56:19
deliver that... off the cuff, that open part, then she's
1:56:24
doomed. But it gets worse. It's not hard to see
1:56:27
why. The idea of not spending evenings with my kids
1:56:30
is completely unacceptable. So my president, excuse me, my husband.
1:56:37
Whoops. You know what this is like? This I'm sure
1:56:40
this has happened to me. If not, you've been in
1:56:43
a classroom in grade school where someone stood up and
1:56:47
addressed the teacher and say, Mom. Oh, yeah. Remember how
1:56:50
cringe that was? You'd be like, oh, have you ever
1:56:53
done that with Tina? Tina. No, she's once called me
1:56:57
by her ex-husband's name. Oh, okay. And it took her
1:57:00
days to get over it. I'm like, I'm really okay.
1:57:04
I know you love me. I don't know why I
1:57:06
did that. That's never happened with me. But of course,
1:57:10
19 years with Dvorak, we had... endless conversations about stopping
1:57:15
certain phrases and things that we would use. So that
1:57:19
was one of the first things I put in 100%.
1:57:23
Thank you. Good one, Matt. That was one of the
1:57:26
first, like, I am not going to call this beautiful
1:57:29
woman by any other name than her name. It is
1:57:32
going to be her name. And so I got that
1:57:35
in, and it's solid. But I remember calling the teacher
1:57:39
mom, and everybody was like, Baaah! and here she said
1:57:44
but mixing up her husband with the president oh boy
1:57:47
man that's bad and then there's all kinds of controversy
1:57:50
I want to bring a scene in Zach Wolfe yeah
1:57:53
bring him in is she practice licensed to practice law
1:57:57
in any of the 50 states i assume she does
1:57:59
have a law degree right she does she went to
1:58:02
pepperdine she has a law degree she's got a degree
1:58:05
in surfing pepperdine's a good old christian uh school is
1:58:09
my mom uh my mom used to be a regular
1:58:12
on their lectureship uh series every year oh we called
1:58:16
that surfing you yeah yeah pepper dine it's uh i
1:58:20
think church of christ traditional church like abilene christian college
1:58:24
or university and love a christian yeah pepper dine is
1:58:28
one of the original uh church of christ schools and
1:58:31
uh yeah didn't know that with a gorgeous campus oh
1:58:34
no it's beautiful it's really nice so She's active in
1:58:38
the school there, you know, on the dean's council. But
1:58:42
there's no evidence that she passed a bar exam. It
1:58:44
seems like if she had taken one, the White House
1:58:46
would simply have told us that at this point. And
1:58:49
specifically in California, there's no record of her ever taking
1:58:53
the bar exam. And interestingly, in that state where she
1:58:56
lived, it's actually illegal, as it is in many other
1:58:58
states now. to present yourself as an attorney or a
1:59:02
lawyer. She's used both the term attorney and lawyer online
1:59:05
and social media to describe herself. And it can be
1:59:08
punishable by prison time. She's going to the big house.
1:59:12
She's going to the slammer where she belongs. Be a
1:59:14
roommate with, what's her name, our Somali bulbhead friend. Oh,
1:59:19
Elon. Oh. What, Elon? No, no, the Somali gal. Well,
1:59:24
that's Elon Omar. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Okay, I
1:59:26
thought you were saying Musk. Elon Omar. No, Elon Omar.
1:59:31
She's not going to jail. She's going back to Somali.
1:59:35
I guess. Wait a minute. Let's continue because she has
1:59:38
an interesting social media history that, of course, CNN has
1:59:42
dug up. CNN's K-Files reporting that she has a history
1:59:45
of conspiracy-laden social media posts. One, she writes, the radical
1:59:49
left Hollywood elitists are sick pedo cannibals. Changed my mind.
1:59:54
In another, she shared a conspiracy-laden. theory about Hillary Clinton's
1:59:57
campaign share with the hashtag pedo podesta.
2:00:00
Yes, not a conspiracy theory. Obviously, baseless claim. No, there's
2:00:06
a base for the claim. It didn't say it was
2:00:10
a base. A whole QAnon conspiracy thing. Obviously, baseless claim.
2:00:15
Do you have concerns? Yeah, look, they are about... What
2:00:19
this says is sort of there's a chaos dynamic now.
2:00:22
This is someone who would never have passed vetting in
2:00:24
any Republican or Democrat White House. He would never let
2:00:27
someone come in with those kind of statements out on
2:00:30
the public record. So it suggests a White House that
2:00:33
is not functioning the same way anymore. For the voters
2:00:36
now three weeks out, I think it's demoralizing to Republican
2:00:40
voters, honestly, to see chaos moment after chaos moment. Chaos!
2:00:43
And I think a lot of people see these kind
2:00:45
of things and it just tells them to stay home.
2:00:50
It's chaos. Stay home. Are you staying home? Nobody's going
2:00:53
to stay home because of her. Nobody's going to. And
2:00:58
then Doocy, the shill, who's on the payroll, of course,
2:01:01
he's going to ask a question. Well, we will take
2:01:04
Peter Doocy. Because he's friendly fire. Yes, he is. Thanks,
2:01:09
Katie. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. You're
2:01:11
starting as White House press secretary three weeks before a
2:01:15
midterm cycle that President Trump himself says will be very
2:01:19
tough for Republicans. Is your job just to speak about
2:01:23
White House matters or is it to make things less
2:01:27
tough for Republicans in the midterms? to do what I
2:01:32
was doing on the outside already, which was hoping to
2:01:36
amplify, multiply, and expand upon President Trump's incredible agenda for
2:01:41
the American people. And what I hope to do in
2:01:44
this position is to take that into an official capacity
2:01:46
and only build on, only amplify, and only multiply to
2:01:50
the extent possible. all of the wins he's making for
2:01:53
Americans. For Americans to understand how much has changed in
2:01:59
this brief period of time, what he's been able to.
2:02:01
She's giving her job description. She's not like, okay, what
2:02:04
am I supposed to do? I am supposed to make
2:02:07
it clear to all Americans what a great job the
2:02:10
president, I mean my husband, I mean the president has
2:02:13
been doing. This is not good, but I don't hate
2:02:16
her. Like, you know, you said you hate her. Did
2:02:18
I say that? We're going to roll the tape. I
2:02:21
said I don't like her very much. I don't use
2:02:24
that. I don't use that. I could be wrong. I'm
2:02:27
listening back this afternoon. My goal is to be able
2:02:30
to communicate that. Robot, find in the No Agenda show
2:02:35
where I talked about the new press secretary. Did I
2:02:38
say I hated her or not? You'll be able to
2:02:40
do it. In complete tandem with the president as he
2:02:43
is his own best spokesperson and will absolutely be leading
2:02:47
the way with that. Okay. I want to ask you
2:02:51
a policy question. Has the U.S. stopped sharing intel with
2:02:55
Ukraine? I'll have to get back to you on that.
2:02:58
Oh, man, the troll room just had a great throwback.
2:03:05
Marie Harf. There you go. So in my previous life
2:03:09
before I got to Fox, I was the State Department
2:03:11
spokesperson who briefed at the post. Do you remember Marie
2:03:13
Harf? Oh, yeah, with the big glasses. Oh, yeah. She
2:03:16
was like a cartoon. This is a classic clip. And
2:03:19
the person who does that now is Heather Nowert, who
2:03:23
we all know. What was it? She had this. Oh,
2:03:27
man. Let me see if I can find it. Harf.
2:03:31
She had this thing where she's like, I went to
2:03:32
band camp. I don't know if I can find it
2:03:35
anymore. Oh, here it is. Thank you. Thank you. This
2:03:39
is my new row. Oh, why did it fail? Oh,
2:03:42
it won't load that? Let me try this one. Oh,
2:03:46
man. You know, there was a cartoon character that she
2:03:50
was likened to. And every time I saw her, and
2:03:54
I can't remember what the cartoon was, but it was
2:03:57
a cartoon character like in the Sunday comics. And... that
2:04:03
marie harf uh... reminded me of derrick area derrick area
2:04:08
i think derrick there that's yeah yeah that's who she
2:04:11
reminded me of and every time i saw i just
2:04:13
saw a cartoon figure But, yeah, the spokespeople have been
2:04:18
– are always very interesting. I have to say that
2:04:21
Trump doesn't hire any ugly people, and I think he's
2:04:26
pretty good at that. I will say the new gal
2:04:30
is one of these too much hair, too much makeup
2:04:33
people that I'm just not a – you know, I'm
2:04:36
getting tired of these black eyes that are becoming popular
2:04:40
where the women are putting the black under and above.
2:04:44
Not just women, my brother. Oh, yeah. Boys are doing
2:04:46
it, too. Boys are doing it, too. I happen to
2:04:48
watch the – I had, Tina was in Indianapolis, Indiana,
2:04:53
and we're visiting her mom and her sisters. And, So
2:04:57
I'm like, I'm going to watch a little bit of
2:04:58
the MTV Awards. First of all, it starts off with
2:05:00
Madonna. Welcome back to Friday Briefings. I'm sorry that August
2:05:03
is over. Oh, and this one time at band camp.
2:05:07
I don't have anything at the top today. I guess
2:05:09
she did. That was just an old no agenda joke.
2:05:12
And this one time I went to band camp. Sorry.
2:05:17
And so I watched the MTV Awards. And so Madonna
2:05:20
starts off. And it was like everyone had lasers shooting
2:05:26
out of their crotch and all this other butt and
2:05:30
having sex in the bathroom stalls. OK, whatever. Club culture.
2:05:34
Yeah. That doesn't offend me. Like, whatever. But then they
2:05:38
had the George Michael tribute. And I really want it
2:05:40
because I think George Michael is one of the best
2:05:42
songwriters of my era of the 80s and 90s. I
2:05:45
love what he wrote. He was a very, very private
2:05:48
guy. Everybody knew who he was gay, but he was
2:05:50
kind of private about that. And they did this medley.
2:05:56
And they had Adam Lambert and a big black guy
2:06:00
in a dress and, you know, trans people and trans
2:06:03
flags all over. I'm like, no, that was the worst
2:06:07
tribute ever. to George Michael. And Adam Lambert had those
2:06:12
black eyes, you know, like the raccoon eyes. That was
2:06:18
disappointing. It was a bad tribute. Ladies, save it for
2:06:21
Halloween. I mean, that's all I can say. Save it
2:06:25
for Halloween since we were talking about her. Federal agents
2:06:29
carried out a search very quickly. Monday at the D.C.
2:06:31
home of Minnesota Congresswoman Ilhan Omar. The Trump administration says
2:06:35
it was part of a criminal investigation, but Omar calls
2:06:38
it a campaign of political intimidation. She says it's an
2:06:42
effort to silence her. Here's House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries.
2:06:47
Right wing conspiracy theorists have been targeting Representative Omar for
2:06:52
about eight years at this particular point in time. There's
2:06:56
nothing there relative to behavior that should merit this type
2:07:01
of extraordinary. I apologize for this audio. Let alone inside
2:07:06
of 30 days. in the date of an election. CBS
2:07:10
News Homeland Security correspondent Nicole Skanger brings us more on
2:07:14
what we're learning about that race. What are we learning?
2:07:16
Federal agents were seen removing boxes of evidence from Minnesota
2:07:20
Congresswoman Ilhan Omar's Washington home around 6 a.m. Sources tell
2:07:25
CBS a years-long probe into Omar involves immigration paperwork that
2:07:29
was completed by her late father when she was a
2:07:32
child. Omar, a U.S. citizen and the first Somali-American in
2:07:35
Congress, called the search an attempt to target political enemies.
2:07:40
President Trump told reporters he's not involved in the investigation.
2:07:44
Well, I understand they're looking at her very bad. carefully.
2:07:47
I've always doubted to be totally crooked personally, but that
2:07:50
has nothing to do with me. Trump has regularly leveled
2:07:54
false attacks against Omar. She's here illegally. She should get
2:07:58
the hell out, throw the hell out. What do you
2:08:00
think is going to... This is kind of... unprecedented doing
2:08:06
this so close to an election as she stands for
2:08:09
re-election. What do you think? Well, I don't think anything
2:08:13
ever comes out of any Washington investigations. I mean, they
2:08:19
just don't. They don't. And I think one of these
2:08:22
days we need to get to the bottom of a
2:08:24
cover story. I don't have any confidence in the federal
2:08:28
government anymore when it comes to policing themselves or any
2:08:32
of that. I got no confidence in them, so I
2:08:34
don't see anything happening here. I do have one question,
2:08:37
though I just want to know, did they go through
2:08:41
her burka drawer? Why? Well, you know, they went through
2:08:44
Melania's underwear drawers. Good point. I wouldn't say I'm under
2:08:51
for burkas. We're all, you know, thrashed around. Good point.
2:08:55
Good point. I don't know. I just know that all
2:08:58
the Somali driver, Uber drivers in Holland when we were
2:09:01
there were like, Where are you from? Somalia. Oh, we
2:09:05
know a Somali in America. Who? Elon Omar. Bye! Elon
2:09:10
Omar. Bye! They thought that was the funniest thing. They're
2:09:14
like, she's phony. She's fake. Or whatever. You know, I
2:09:17
told you this story. I think last time I was
2:09:19
on the air, we passed by her in the hallway
2:09:24
in the tunnels up at the Capitol in D.C. back
2:09:27
in January. And my wife... turned around, she thinks she
2:09:31
has a whisper voice. Yes. But she grew up with
2:09:36
deaf parents. Oh, wow. And so her whisper voice is
2:09:40
not, and Omar walks by, and she goes, isn't that
2:09:43
the one who married her brother? Yes. Any response from
2:09:48
the congressman? No, but the poor little 18-year-old guide that
2:09:52
was walking over there, I thought she was going to
2:09:55
want to crawl into a hole. But no, it was
2:09:58
– so yeah. We're going to get to donations in
2:10:01
a moment. You're gracious enough to stay. You also have
2:10:04
a tip of the day, which I'm very happy about.
2:10:07
In general, because you just kind of said it, there's
2:10:10
a lot of skepticism about the United States, about our
2:10:13
government, about anything ever getting done. I can look at
2:10:17
the rat room, as you call it, and be like,
2:10:19
nothing ever changes. Nothing ever gets done. It's just no
2:10:23
good. I mean – Are we going to eventually just
2:10:28
fade away like the Soviet Union? Will we remain strong?
2:10:32
What is your long-term view? There's a remnant of us.
2:10:36
They're going to preserve the good stuff. Oh, and I
2:10:40
absolutely believe that, that there's and, you know, is it
2:10:43
going to come out of Texas? I hope so. But
2:10:46
I think there's I think there's a remnant of still
2:10:49
good people out there, quite a few. And will it
2:10:52
be enough? I think so. Yeah. Besides that, God's on
2:10:57
our side. Well, there you go. There you go. Last
2:11:01
clip, just because it was breaking. Breaking news this morning.
2:11:04
So there is some breaking news. You perhaps. I told
2:11:06
you it was breaking news, but he's not doing it
2:11:08
right. Breaking. There is some breaking news. Come on, CBS.
2:11:12
You perhaps have not yet seen, but you can probably
2:11:15
look at your phone. The president just posted it to
2:11:17
social that he will not again, not live stream the
2:11:20
execution of Nidal Hassan. Now, this, of course, was my
2:11:24
idea for many, many years, like all. All public execution
2:11:28
should be televised. I wanted the rights to it, really,
2:11:31
and Brunetti was on board and everything. But I've since
2:11:34
changed my tune a little bit about that. But, yeah.
2:11:40
I've already ordered the popcorn, so I'm disappointed. Were you
2:11:44
really? You know, yes, this guy was a dog. He
2:11:49
was a hateful Muslim radical who wormed his way into
2:11:55
our military and then did such a cowardly act. Well,
2:11:59
he's still going to be executed by firing squad. Well,
2:12:01
he's still going to be executed by firing squad. Yes,
2:12:04
that's true, but... Yeah, I think we should all be
2:12:08
able to see it. Well, Ford Hood is just down
2:12:11
the road. You can go over there and take a
2:12:14
look. Get a press credential. Didn't one of your guys,
2:12:17
didn't Deuce, said he was going to – Oh, Deucifer
2:12:20
said he's applied for a press pass already. Deucifer called
2:12:25
me last night. Did he? We had a phone call.
2:12:27
funny chat. Yeah. He's like, man, I'm just going to
2:12:30
leave Texas. why i want to travel the country with
2:12:32
my kids i want them to learn that what life
2:12:34
is really like be on the road for a couple
2:12:37
years like that's a great idea yeah i think it
2:12:40
is too take a you know take a star link
2:12:42
don't go over 100 miles an hour you'll be fine
2:12:45
that's right we'll be right back with some donations it's
2:12:48
thursday the signal's hot the podfather's Back connecting the dots,
2:12:59
been a long time coming, now the wait is gone,
2:12:59
Matt Long's in the house, turn the damn thing on!
2:13:00
Go! Trump wants the minerals to hold damn light. Oil
2:13:12
in the ground, gas under ice. Europe's in the corner
2:13:15
screaming, not at that price. Diplomacy. Washington is talking, but
2:13:20
they ain't saying nothing. Maps on the. in the wind
2:13:24
more suckers, here we go again, turn it up. Just
2:13:42
keep climbing. Nobody forgets. the machine, selling you a headline
2:13:52
This country just keeps in the Greenland Disguise. Wait a
2:14:00
minute. in Greenland. It was just too good. Oh, yeah.
2:14:27
I got two songs, so I had to play both
2:14:29
of them. Thank you, Craig Weinberg. Just Baker did the
2:14:31
other one. Value for Value, that has been the mantra
2:14:35
of the No Agenda show for close to 19 years.
2:14:39
Coming up on that 19th anniversary, I think the 26th
2:14:42
is our official anniversary, and so that means the... I
2:14:46
believe the Sunday before that will be the 25th, and
2:14:49
we'll be celebrating 19 years on that date. And what
2:14:53
a ride it has been. It's been amazing. And so
2:14:56
Value for Value has kept it going, and that's your
2:14:58
time, your talent, your treasure.
2:15:00
very early on John and I realized there was no
2:15:02
way it was going to work with advertising that's for
2:15:05
sure because we would have not existed even uh monetarily
2:15:09
or just would have been de-platformed for sure and also
2:15:13
just being a Podcasts that you can freely get without
2:15:17
having to deal with a platform like YouTube or any
2:15:21
other place. You know, I'm so sad about these podcasters
2:15:24
who think they have to do video and stuff. Although
2:15:27
I'm not adverse to video, but it's like, you know,
2:15:29
you got to have the audio component. And these days
2:15:31
you can do video on podcasts, too. And you can
2:15:33
with a modern podcast app. In fact, you use Podcast
2:15:36
Guru, don't you? Yes, I do. Very modern. They have
2:15:38
the pod ping technology built in. So do you get
2:15:41
a notification with no agenda goes live? I have not
2:15:44
set that up. Okay, Matt. Have your robot help you
2:15:48
with that. Okay, I will. And it will take the
2:15:50
robot. But I did push two of my family members
2:15:53
on to Podcast Guru yesterday. Oh, good. You guru guys
2:15:56
out there, you got two new, and I won't credit
2:15:59
for them. You are a guru dealer, man. That's right.
2:16:04
PodcastApps.com is where you can find all the modern podcasts.
2:16:07
apps get rid of that legacy app because you want
2:16:09
to know when the new show is out within 90
2:16:12
seconds the pod ping technology built into those brand new
2:16:15
apps will let you know that it's there um We've
2:16:19
had so many people help us. Of course, Void Zero
2:16:21
has been running the engine room for a long, long
2:16:25
time on the show. The rat room, the midget room,
2:16:28
the troll room. We have to change that. I like
2:16:31
the rat room. Nick the rat's here today, and he's
2:16:34
like, this is my place. The rat room is mine.
2:16:38
Good. And so that's your time and your talent. And
2:16:42
people also do things like organized meetups. Matt is a
2:16:46
perfect example of it. Are you going to do your
2:16:49
– oh, I thought you were doing your pig feet,
2:16:51
your pig nails. No, no, that's for – there you
2:16:54
go. There they go. People make art for us, the
2:16:57
album art, which as you heard is very important. enjoyable
2:17:00
so much so that matt printed it out wants the
2:17:03
uh artist to autograph it i want to thank nestworks
2:17:06
now nestworks he does stuff um probably hybrid uh he
2:17:11
he may use ai uh but i'm pretty sure this
2:17:13
is one of those hybrids where he touched it up
2:17:15
this was the uh curry and do eat more meat
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with a A ribeye holding on to some lettuce and
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a carrot. Throwback or callback to the show where we're
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Nestworks. Appreciate it. There were a lot of good pieces.
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Baron and Commander of the Jutland. He's coming in for
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Moore. You are starting to sound like an old couple.
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Okay, great. Sir Schwartz of the woke bashing culprits. Thank
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you very much. Future Knight of Brasilia. A challenge coin
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donation with fees. Thank you for keeping me sane. De-douche
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me and give me some karma. We can do that
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you want to say something? Oh, I was just making
2:19:49
notions with the harp. You know, that always reminded me
2:19:53
of that, what was the disco song that started out
2:19:56
with a harp like that? Donna Summer. Donna Summer. Every
2:20:01
time I hear the... Let's Dance the Last Dance. Yeah,
2:20:04
every time I hear the karma thing, I get Donna
2:20:07
Summer in my head. Oh, let's dance. Let's dance. All
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right, Matt, showing our age. There you go. Beautiful. Future
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Knight of Brasile. We got him. Yes. Up next for
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the challenge coin, Jeffrey Solomon. In the morning, thank you,
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John and Adam, for all the years of no agenda.
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Adam, Godspeed on what's next. Thank you. Jack Swoboda comes
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And he says, this coin is a lovely tribute to
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the great JCD. It will sit in a place of
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honor among my challenge coins. Thanks for everything. May the
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Lord bless you and keep you. Thank you. you leslie
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hatton with the actual 388 83 and leslie says jcd
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forever elene portfleet in flissingen in the netherlands 3883 And
2:20:51
she says, hi, Adam, this PayPal donation is a switcheroo
2:20:54
for my smoking hot not husband and amazing dad to
2:20:57
our three human recourses. I think she meant resources, but
2:21:01
you never know. Michiel Buren. So he will be. Yeah.
2:21:07
He will get the credit for this. The show has
2:21:08
meant so much to him over the years. He has
2:21:10
also managed to punch me in the mouth. With the
2:21:13
passing of John, he has sadly lost yet another great
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man to look up to. We all have. The Challenge
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Coin is my gift to his. not quite John C.
2:21:21
Worthy collection and proof that great men exist. Life has
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been busy lately and we haven't been able to donate
2:21:27
as much as we would want. I have no idea
2:21:29
what this would mean for his knighthood, but I'm looking
2:21:31
forward to being a douchebag living with a knight. Dankjewel
2:21:35
for it fortsetter van de scho, erom je bent en
2:21:37
waarde voor iedereen van Eline. It's a little bit of
2:21:39
Dutch there. Uh, Ovidiu, Ovidiu Preda, uh, 388, 83, please
2:21:46
call out the Tennessee truck driver as a douchebag. Wishing
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the Noah Jenner family the best, Adam. I'm hoping I
2:21:54
heard wrong that you're exiting the show. It won't be
2:21:56
the same without you. Thanks for everything. Well... You did
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hear correctly. Commodore Sir Robertson of Two Sticks, 38883. ITM,
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thank you for the 19 years of knowledge, humor, and
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entertainment. Rest in peace, JCD. Commodore Sir Robertson of Two
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Sticks, Dos Palos, California. Six years ago, 1015, I became
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today. I have no idea what that is. Sarah Nielsen
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from Laurentier, Quebec. She's a Quebecaquois. She's a Quebecaquois. Dear
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Adam and Friends, Oh, so she sent 383 and 83
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Canadian pesos, which turns out to be 261.22 in dollars.
2:22:42
But we will grant her the challenge coin. ITM, I'm
2:22:45
glad to hear you got the blanket. Yeah. This time
2:22:48
I send the cash, 388.83 Canadian pesos, for a JCD
2:22:51
Challenge coin for my birthday tomorrow, October 16th. Cheers from
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Sarah King Nielsen in Laurentienne de Quebec, Scandinavia. My shortest
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note to date, but wait, there's more. Meetup idea. LDI
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people. Live Design International is going to be in New
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Orleans, October 15th to the 21st, 2027. How about a
2:23:11
meetup? I figure a year will be enough to plan
2:23:13
something. I'm not the strongest organizer type, so I hope
2:23:24
the seed will plant itself and I will show up
2:23:27
with my coin. Adam, you should come and geek out.
2:23:29
What is the live or live design international live design
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live design? uh pps did you know that a group
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of loons the bird is called an asylum it doesn't
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should. Look her up. Go to Castle Rock. I've been
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it's actually, no, it's one of the, no, I take
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it back. Castle Rock is not one of the two
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gambling towns up there. I take that back. Okay. Okay.
2:25:02
But yeah, we've taken it. We've taken it back. I've
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Now, first, I have a make good here. This is
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from Anna and she she was Dame, but I think
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I. Yeah, she was named Dame Nan Adam of Texas
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Twilight Adams of the Texas Twilight Zone. I'm cashing in
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Mary with beer chaser. I'm trying to think. No, no.
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I guess we missed her, so she's being dame today.
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There you go. We're going to take care of you
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with that. We've got the Dungeness crab cakes and a
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it. I got some sweet tea. Some sweet tea and
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some pig nails. That's right. And Sir Chamberlain sent in
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Okay, so we'll be right back. Dominion Squires, commander of
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the Knights of the Round Table in honor of the
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Little Yellow Maniacs. Oh, the Round Banana. Commander of the
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Knights of the Round Banana. In honor of the little
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yellow maniacs I collect. At the round table, a steady
2:31:21
spread of burgers, blunts, and bananas. I guess he connects
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bananas. Whatever the road ahead looks like, I've thoroughly enjoyed
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the Korean Friends era. Coordinating that rotating cast has to
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be a logistical headache, but the fresh energy insights make
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every episode shine. Actually, it wasn't that hard. No. Y'all
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on? I'm like, hey, Matt, next week. I'm telling you,
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Matt, I promise you next week. Oh, okay, Thursday. What?
2:31:48
Okay. Yeah. No, it has been good. So let's get
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the blade out here. And I'm going to request that
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Chris Dubendorf. and Sarah and Blecksrod, of course. All three
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Show. No Agenda Jobs! talk about but first we have
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a report from dame trail chicken from the virginia meetup
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in the morning this is dame trail chicken we're all
2:33:09
here at creekside farm brewery having a good time trains
2:33:13
good planes bad RIP JCD, we miss you. Life is
2:33:18
a scam. This is Rob from Richmond in the morning.
2:33:21
This is Ed from Mechanicsville in the morning to y'all.
2:33:25
Milo Curtis here hanging out with some amazing people. If
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you haven't been into a meetup yet, you have to
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go. Hi, this is Alex Happy in Virginia. Train's good,
2:33:34
but we drove here. Hey, this is Dame Rose. Yeah,
2:33:42
it has been too long. I'm good to hear Tom
2:33:52
and Alex there. Let me get this all set up
2:33:58
here. I think we have Matt brought some second half
2:34:01
of show stuff. But before we do that, there is
2:34:04
a meetup taking place today. Once again, Charlotte's Thirsty Third
2:34:08
Thursday monthly meetup. I guess it's the second week. Thursday
2:34:11
of the month, but it'll be at Ed's Tavern. That
2:34:14
is tonight at 7 o'clock. Tomorrow, the No Agenda Headbangers
2:34:19
Ball October Karaoke Meetup. That's got to be a hoot.
2:34:22
7.30 at Ernie's in Scottsdale, Arizona. Then on Saturday in
2:34:27
Los Angeles, Leo Bravo. This will be his 81st meetup,
2:34:31
the Florentown. Light of the No Agendas, 333 at Steelcraft
2:34:35
in Long Beach, California. And, of course, we have the
2:34:39
fifth semiannual Fredericksburg, Texas meetup. Is that the correct title
2:34:44
of it? Yes, sir. That is. 333 right here. Well,
2:34:48
it's in Luchenbach, but we'll call it Fredericksburg, Texas at
2:34:51
Bar 1776. Matt, any surprises? No. Well, no, I don't
2:34:56
think there will be any surprises. I think we're going
2:34:59
to have a high number count. Y'all bring some snacks.
2:35:03
Gail's not doing snacks for us this time? Well, actually,
2:35:05
she's pretty tied up. She's not going to be there?
2:35:08
No, she'll be there. But Jenny, she was visiting with
2:35:12
Jenny a couple of days ago out at 1776.5. bar
2:35:16
full moon in bed and breakfast.com um and uh jenny
2:35:22
was uh also real busy and she said well i'm
2:35:24
gonna make a bunch of dips and that's about it
2:35:26
you need to get matt to make something what are
2:35:29
you gonna what are you gonna make matt nothing no
2:35:31
idea you're coming straight in your ben franklin from your
2:35:34
gig man if i make anything it'll be tomorrow and
2:35:39
uh so i'll i have to come up with something
2:35:41
because jenny's already given the command people bring some chips
2:35:44
bring some uh some crackers bring some cheese you know
2:35:47
and uh and let us all uh buy our beverages
2:35:50
from jenny there at the bar absolutely do some business
2:35:53
she's been so great to the show she really has
2:35:57
just been phenomenal uh Upcoming, the 21st, Orlando, Florida, 24th,
2:36:02
Los Altos, California, Tilburg, the Netherlands on the 24th. as
2:36:06
well. And then we have November, Raleigh, North Carolina on
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the 4th. Albany, California, go see the baby, go see
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Nora on the 7th. South Central Pennsylvania on the 8th,
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North Idaho on the 14th. Scottsdale, Arizona on the 17th.
2:36:20
And Charlotte, North Carolina for another one of their 33rd
2:36:22
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with all the nights and days You wanna be where
2:36:55
you won't be Triggered on hell's blame You wanna be
2:37:00
where everybody feels the same Like a party. Now, did
2:37:06
you want to do a little second half of show
2:37:08
stuff, Matt? Oh, absolutely. I was just waiting for the
2:37:11
theremin. You know, I thought you had a real one
2:37:14
in here. Have you ever built one of those? There
2:37:16
it is. I was looking. There it is. All right.
2:37:19
I want to build one someday. Is it that hard?
2:37:22
No, you don't want to build one. You just want
2:37:24
to get one of the ones. This is a Moog.
2:37:26
You see what's on top? Yeah, yeah. That's an auto-tuner.
2:37:29
Okay, so you can get it right in there. You
2:37:32
can play a tune with it and say right in
2:37:34
there. I keep telling Pastor Jimmy, put me on the
2:37:36
worship team, man. Put me on the worship team. Yeah.
2:37:40
Yeah, I got some second half stuff for you. First
2:37:43
of all, this has to go back with when we,
2:37:45
Artemis II went around the moon. So they say. So
2:37:48
they say, yeah. And so I am a space and
2:37:53
moon nut. I just grew up with astronauts and wanting
2:37:58
to be an astronaut. You believe we've landed on the
2:38:01
moon? Absolutely. You're a moon believer? You're a believer. I
2:38:04
am a full believer, yes, sir. All right. And, yeah,
2:38:09
I've handled some of the rocks even. Dude, come on.
2:38:12
Oh, sure. Real moon rock. Real moon rock. Yeah, sure.
2:38:15
How about that firmament, Matt? How'd you get through that?
2:38:18
I'm not going to ask you. Okay. So, anyway, I
2:38:20
remember calling... agree to disagree. That's right. Now, I remember
2:38:26
talking to you shortly after that about the missing pixels
2:38:30
segment. Oh, gosh. And you brought it up. You brought
2:38:34
it up with John, and he, like, had bigger fish
2:38:37
to fry. Yeah. And he moved on with it, and
2:38:40
I was so bummed because I thought it was one
2:38:42
of my first contributions that Adam's going to do. But
2:38:45
what the story was, I was watching live as they
2:38:47
went around the dark side of the moon. And, of
2:38:50
course, I was playing some Pink Floyd while they did
2:38:53
that. So when they emerged, there was video they played
2:38:57
of... that they had recorded because you know you don't
2:39:00
get a signal. Well, they're playing it live. It's unedited
2:39:04
and they're going through and they show as soon as
2:39:06
they get the full black of the dark side of
2:39:09
the moon, there are all these little lights all over
2:39:12
that dark side of the moon. And that's what NASA
2:39:15
said. Those were just missing pixels. And the guy who
2:39:18
is narrating it because I'm sitting there going, it looks
2:39:21
like you're flying over Nebraska in the night is what
2:39:24
it looked like, you know? Unedited. Yeah. And so I
2:39:28
watched that and I said, oh, Adam's going to love
2:39:33
this. And so I had my robot a couple of
2:39:36
days ago try to find that. She cannot – I
2:39:40
can't believe I just said that. It cannot find –
2:39:44
It's missing. Just like all the telemetry. And I said,
2:39:50
and I got real specific. I said they used the
2:39:53
term missing pixels. And robots said, well, that's good information.
2:39:58
I will search for that phrase. And couldn't find nothing.
2:40:03
It's all gone. It's a cover-up. Because the backside of
2:40:06
the moon really is Nebraska in the middle of the
2:40:10
night. Wow, you've come over to the dark side, Matt.
2:40:13
I'm loving it. Anyway, so I have to start with
2:40:15
that. But I got plenty of cuts. And... That was
2:40:19
the whole reason for me bringing second half cuts because
2:40:22
I had to talk about the missing pixels. But let's
2:40:25
start. I gave them to you in an order. I'm
2:40:28
going to take them a little bit different order. Let's
2:40:31
start with the one that's called More to Come. Now,
2:40:34
this is on a news channel out of Las Vegas.
2:40:38
called 8 News Now Las Vegas. And we have George
2:40:43
Knapp. Oh, we all know George Knapp, sure. I was
2:40:47
going to say he's a famous UFO guy. Yeah. And
2:40:49
Ron Futrell, I don't know that. Another famous UFO guy.
2:40:53
Okay, they're both on Mystery Wire. Which is so believable.
2:40:58
Well, it looked official, it looked official. They had backgrounds.
2:41:01
They had little scrolls across the bottom. A real channel.
2:41:05
Nice. Yeah, it was. And this is October 11th. Now,
2:41:09
let me set this up because we had that big
2:41:13
release of all the UFO files. Remember? What was that?
2:41:16
Six or eight months ago. A couple of releases. A
2:41:18
couple of releases. Yeah. And we were told. They call
2:41:20
them dumps. Dumps. Massive dumps. Of caches. So anyway, these
2:41:25
guys were talking about another dump to come. And he's
2:41:32
going to use the term AWASAP, something like that. It
2:41:39
stands for Advanced Aerospace Weapons of... System Applications Program, formerly
2:41:47
known as AATIP, I believe. AWASP. A-A-W-S-A-P, AWASAP. And so
2:41:54
that's the terminology he's going to be using. So this
2:41:57
is more to come. This is exciting news. So hit
2:42:00
it. But hundreds of people have filed FOIA requests to
2:42:04
DIA, and DIA has always said, we can't find any
2:42:07
reports like this. A couple of weeks ago, the White
2:42:10
House, which is trying to release piles of tranches of
2:42:13
UFO-related materials, reaches out to DIA itself and says, hey,
2:42:17
where's those OSAP reports? And DIA told them the same
2:42:21
thing it's told the public. We can't find them. Suddenly,
2:42:24
a week ago, Bigelow, who was the contractor, gets a
2:42:27
letter from DIA about the OSAP reports and whether to
2:42:31
make them public. I got a call from Mr. Bigelow
2:42:33
late that evening. He said, oh, my gosh, DIA just
2:42:36
sent me a letter. He misinterpreted what the meaning of
2:42:39
it was. He thought DIA was telling him, you have
2:42:41
to release them. If you've got a copy of it,
2:42:43
you've got to release them. We've been watching your podcast,
2:42:46
they said. We know you got them. And release them.
2:42:50
Well, that's not what the letter said. The letter said
2:42:53
DIA has now found the OSAP documents. They were stashed
2:42:56
in a deep cubbyhole somewhere. And they're going to start
2:42:59
the process of redacting things that need to come out.
2:43:02
And then they're going to release them to the public.
2:43:04
Now, that's going to take some time and we can
2:43:06
get into that. But yeah, the redactions. Yeah, the documents
2:43:09
are found. And they're coming out There you go More
2:43:12
to come Good news That's it Proof is coming That's
2:43:15
right I can't wait Move on to the next one
2:43:19
Let's see Let's call this one Dune We're going way
2:43:22
out there We're going all the way out to Saturn
2:43:25
And this one My robot led me to believe This
2:43:31
was newer than it was And I had already sent
2:43:34
it off And I think it's about a year old
2:43:36
But the posting was brand new So anyway Anyway, hit
2:43:41
Dune. Hey, guys, this is Scott. I just want to
2:43:45
remake this video. I posted it earlier, had really bad
2:43:48
audio. So let's try to do it again. Let's make
2:43:50
it a little bit shorter, too, so it doesn't bother
2:43:53
you. Now, I just want everyone to know, Matt sent
2:43:57
me an email with a bunch of links with time
2:44:00
codes on it. And I didn't want to hear your
2:44:02
clips, obviously. Right. So I just told my robot, go
2:44:05
make these clips for Matt. So I don't know if
2:44:07
this is where you want it to start. It is.
2:44:09
That's where it started. It's good so far. Perfect. It
2:44:12
is. The Saturn Moon Titan. Now, I found something right
2:44:16
up here. It's a labyrinth. It's a maze. It's huge.
2:44:20
Have you ever seen Maze Runner? It's just like that.
2:44:23
I mean, the maze is nearly a quarter to half
2:44:26
a kilometer high. It's absolutely amazing. And look at this,
2:44:31
guys. Do you see this maze here? Are you watching
2:44:33
the video? Just a minute. No. I'm going to bring
2:44:35
it into focus. No. Add some deepening. I have this
2:44:38
here. This is Photoscape X. And now you can see
2:44:41
it a little bit better, right? You can see it
2:44:44
a little bit better. You see this huge maze going
2:44:47
down. Okay, now let's put it in negative because NASA
2:44:51
actually does that already. And add a little bit of
2:44:54
darkness so it stands out more. And... There you go.
2:44:58
Now everything seems to be...
2:45:00
be normal, doesn't it? You can really see this maze-like
2:45:03
structure ring around part of Titan. And it goes all
2:45:07
the way up here, all the way down, and all
2:45:10
the way over here. Look at this. Can you see
2:45:13
that? That's just amazing. But that's not the amazing part.
2:45:17
The amazing part is that NASA themselves, yes, NASA themselves
2:45:21
labels it Gnasa Labyrinthus. Labyrinthus is Latin for labyrinth, which
2:45:29
is a complex maze. Complex maze that... Ginaz is actually
2:45:34
the name of a weapons maker from the novel Dune.
2:45:38
Oh, there you go. Did the booker tell you that
2:45:41
this is an audio podcast only? Yeah, no. Well, no,
2:45:45
I knew it was audio, but I thought I didn't
2:45:48
know if you'd be seeing over there. But yeah, it
2:45:51
looks like all intelligently made maze on the moon of
2:45:57
Saturn. And I love the title. in with Dune. Well,
2:46:03
of course. Although I fell asleep during the new Dune.
2:46:07
It was eight hours long. I'm like, oh, man. And
2:46:10
the first Dune was okay, but the second one was
2:46:13
too tiring for me. No, no. The books were great.
2:46:16
I loved the books. Yes. The books were good. So
2:46:19
there we go. There's obviously alien activity. on Titan. Obviously.
2:46:24
And they've got so much spare time that they build
2:46:28
mazes. And I'm just wondering if they're going to turn
2:46:31
orange in the fall, you know, like a pumpkin maze
2:46:33
or a corn maze. I'm not too sure, but I
2:46:37
like that stuff. And then here we go. We're going
2:46:40
to go with this one. I'm going to ignore that
2:46:43
box. The Israeli one. walked on the moon, and I'm
2:46:55
using little quotations. Is it Dune or Duke? I think
2:46:58
it's Duke. Oh, did I say Dune? Duke. Yeah, Charlie
2:47:01
Duke. Charlie Duke. He walked on the moon. He supposedly
2:47:04
walked on the moon. So he claims without evidence. Baseless.
2:47:09
Baseless claims of walking on the moon. And so he's
2:47:14
being... interviewed by someone at CBN News. And so I
2:47:19
was trying to find out, you know, Christian broadcast. Yes.
2:47:22
Cross and break Christian broadcast network. And so I was
2:47:26
looking for, you know, well, who's the guy interviewing him?
2:47:30
Couldn't find it. I had my robot ask. And all
2:47:32
it comes up with is member of the CBM news
2:47:35
team. Oh, okay. So according to – no, and that
2:47:39
wasn't my robot. That was according to Gemini. Oh, boy.
2:47:43
So according to Gemini, he is – there's no name.
2:47:46
He's just a member of the – that's got to
2:47:49
be pretty ruthless if you work for that. That's your
2:47:52
lower third member of CBN. Yeah. So anyway, there's three
2:47:56
segments on here. The first one is called UFOs and
2:48:00
Demons, and we're talking about – This guy, Charlie Duke,
2:48:05
who supposedly walked on the moon, what he thinks about
2:48:09
UFOs. They're going to get to in the second clip
2:48:11
what he saw. But let's start with UFOs and demons.
2:48:16
And I want to hear what Adam has to think
2:48:17
about this. Well, for a long time, this just goes
2:48:21
back years and years ago for me. I was praying
2:48:26
about UFOs and I was asked for a sign. I
2:48:32
felt like UFOs were demonic. But I was saying that
2:48:38
at rotary clubs and stuff like that. And people were
2:48:43
laughing at me off the stage. Yeah. So I said,
2:48:45
God, if I'm really right about this, then you have
2:48:49
give me a sign tomorrow morning that a very good
2:48:53
friend of mine at breakfast will start talking about UFOs.
2:48:58
And this guy's a businessman. He never talks about science
2:49:01
stuff or queer stuff like that. So the next morning
2:49:04
breakfast, we sat down, he said, Charlie, come on over,
2:49:07
I want to start talking to you about UFOs. So
2:49:09
to me, that answered my prayer that the Lord says,
2:49:17
what we're seeing is real, but the devil can appear
2:49:22
as an angel alike, the Bible says. And so what
2:49:26
I've been, Leo, is the UFOs are trying to turn
2:49:32
us away from the truth and run after these alien
2:49:38
beings, which are really not beings at all. They're demonic.
2:49:43
So... People laugh at me, and you can laugh at
2:49:47
me if you want to, but that's the way what
2:49:49
God showed me, and I'm sticking to it. Well, this
2:49:53
is interesting. I'm a baby Christian, so I'm not wading
2:49:58
too far into that. I'm just learning how to pray,
2:50:03
a lifelong journey. I have definitely heard that the entities
2:50:10
that we see can be demons. I personally believe more
2:50:15
that this is Project Bluebeam. You're familiar with Project Bluebeam?
2:50:19
I think that's more at play where we're going to
2:50:22
be led to believe that there's some celestial being and
2:50:26
projections in the sky and – this is i don't
2:50:30
even know charlie duke as an astronaut did he did
2:50:33
he was the last man did he play golf on
2:50:35
the moon did he drive that doom buggy i think
2:50:38
he might have i think he might have it's interesting
2:50:41
though so he's a believer and yeah you know the
2:50:43
other thing that stood out to me was the way
2:50:46
he specifically asked god in fact he kind of gave
2:50:50
god direct He said, and I didn't like that. That
2:50:54
sat really funny with me. I think that's something we
2:50:57
need to get with Jimmy on. Well, I know what
2:51:00
he'll say. It's like... And I know because I've been
2:51:02
praying for things for a long time and sometimes never,
2:51:05
you know, it hasn't come or it can come in
2:51:07
a different way. I mean, God has his own timing.
2:51:10
He'll take his time whenever he's ready is when stuff
2:51:12
will happen. But if you say... Give me a sign,
2:51:15
Lord. Make this guy talk about UFOs. Yeah, I'm a
2:51:18
little skeptical. That one, too. A little skeptical about that.
2:51:21
A little bit. So the next question, the next cut
2:51:25
on here is, I think, a good question that all
2:51:29
astronauts have been asked, those who have been able to
2:51:32
make it past the – what is it? The Van
2:51:34
Allen Belt. The Van Allen Belt. Yes, how come you
2:51:36
didn't try? They want to know had they seen anything
2:51:40
up there. Oh, and by the way, I'll do a
2:51:43
quick aside. There is a channel now on Prime Live
2:51:47
TV, which is a live feed of a satellite radio.
2:51:51
uh... going around the planet and so you can turn
2:51:55
it on at any time and watch the live feed
2:51:59
And I'm telling you what, it's kind of cool. I
2:52:01
go there. I look at it. You can also watch
2:52:04
paint dry. Well, but it is. I find it really
2:52:08
fascinating. But I'm looking for UFOs. Are you just sitting
2:52:12
there? You don't smoke weed? Because that's something I would
2:52:16
have done back in the day. Like, oh, man, this
2:52:19
is so awesome. This is great. call Rogan. Let's do
2:52:22
some shrooms. Joe, look at this. But I haven't seen
2:52:26
any UFOs yet. They play nice soothing music in the
2:52:29
background, you know. But anyway, so I haven't seen any
2:52:33
UFOs on there. I keep hoping the one will streak
2:52:35
across there during the live feed. Oh, okay. That's it.
2:52:39
You're monitoring. I am monitoring. So... Of course, people want
2:52:43
to know what is the astronauts they've been out there.
2:52:45
What do astronauts see things? And so this is where
2:52:49
they ask Charlie Duke, 92 years old, the last man
2:52:52
to walk on the moon. And I think he's the
2:52:55
last one left alive. I think he's the last one
2:52:59
left alive. And so ask him, what did he see
2:53:01
out there? So here we go. You gave an explanation.
2:53:04
In your time as an astronaut, did you ever see
2:53:07
anything you couldn't explain? No, not in my time as
2:53:11
an astronaut or in my flight to the moon. We
2:53:16
had some strange... what we call light flashes. As we
2:53:22
got beyond the Van Allen belts, we see these spikes
2:53:25
go through. We just zipped past them in a tin
2:53:29
can. I don't know. which would stimulate our retina, and
2:53:34
it would be, oh, that one's upper left or lower
2:53:36
right. You could see a streak go through your eyes.
2:53:40
And so those are the only... I would say GLP-1,
2:53:43
maybe. Unusual objects that we had. So they devised an
2:53:50
experiment It was two moving photographic plates, and they measured,
2:53:55
I forgot the results of it, but they measured every
2:53:58
one. You put this thing on and you work for
2:54:01
a couple of hours. And you would report, oh, there's
2:54:04
another one up left or lower right. Oh, that one's
2:54:07
straight on, a big flash. Or there's a fading one
2:54:10
going away. And so, and those were all recorded on
2:54:14
these photographic plates. And so when we got back, they
2:54:18
analyzed all of that stuff. And it was, uh, uh,
2:54:24
uh, some sort of cosmic particles. And I don't remember
2:54:28
the definition of them. So they were real, but it
2:54:32
wasn't anything like looking out the window and seeing a
2:54:36
UFO. These were all in your mind. She was just
2:54:40
being... flooded with radiation. That could be it. That's when
2:54:46
they put him into the other studio. That's right. Before
2:54:53
we play this last clip, I've never heard this guy
2:54:56
talk. This is definitely second half of stuff. It's all
2:55:00
recent, too. I didn't even have to go back. You
2:55:03
know, I dug for hours and hours to find it.
2:55:06
No, I had Muse. Your robot. My robot is still
2:55:10
compiling stories for me today that are the latest breaking
2:55:14
UFO stories. I'm going to have to get it to
2:55:17
stop today. But yeah. So here's what I want to
2:55:22
say about UFOs and aliens, and I may have gotten
2:55:26
this from Jimmy or maybe not. I may have heard
2:55:29
it on We Get to Do This, but I believe
2:55:32
that God created everything. Yeah. Everything. God created everything. Heaven
2:55:38
and earth. Heaven and earth and everything. And so if
2:55:40
we're seeing something up there, it's God created it. And
2:55:46
so I don't have any fear of... alien beings coming
2:55:51
down and if they do god created them i mean
2:55:54
that's that's where i that's where i'm going to stand
2:55:57
on that and um and there's a lot of things
2:55:59
we don't understand you go back to the uh pre-flood
2:56:03
anti-deluvial times and i'm fascinated by that when when giants
2:56:09
and walked the earth and The Nephilim. Angel and the
2:56:11
Nephilim, all of that stuff. I love that stuff. It's
2:56:16
so fascinating. There's a lot of podcasts out there for
2:56:18
you, Matt. Oh, I know, but I do my own
2:56:20
research. Oh, you do? Oh, it's called reading. Yes, very
2:56:24
good. Yes, it's called reading. So that's where I stand
2:56:27
on these unusual things. I believe everything comes from God.
2:56:32
And so that's really where I stand. Whatever we're seeing,
2:56:35
God created it. So let's go to the last one.
2:56:38
And I did very specially pick this one out just
2:56:41
for you, especially with you in mind. I called it
2:56:44
the big question because my heart has been broken since
2:56:49
I heard you talk about the fact that you don't
2:56:51
think we walked on the moon. You know, we have
2:56:54
our lead app developer at Godcaster, Paul Bailey. Yeah. He's
2:56:59
a no agenda guy, but he actually stopped listening for
2:57:03
about five years once he heard that because he used
2:57:07
to work for – the air force and the space
2:57:09
unit and he was heartbroken when he heard it he's
2:57:13
still kind of mad at me so so anyway here
2:57:18
is the big question and this again is um charlie
2:57:22
duke 92 years old the last man so supposedly to
2:57:27
walk on the moon and this cut is especially for
2:57:30
you adam so hit the button Wow. Okay. Now, obviously,
2:57:36
I want to get into real things, but I have
2:57:37
to ask you one more question because you know, obviously,
2:57:39
over the years, there have been all these conspiracy theories
2:57:42
about how you didn't really go to the moon, how
2:57:43
you didn't really walk on the moon, how this was
2:57:45
all concocted and manufactured. How do you – I mean,
2:57:48
as somebody who got – got in, went up, saw
2:57:52
the moon, walked on it. What do you make of
2:57:54
that? How have you responded to those things over the
2:57:57
years? Because there are a lot of people who will
2:57:59
say that stuff. Well, the evidence, the way I respond,
2:58:05
it says, look – You just haven't investigated it thoroughly.
2:58:09
The evidence is overwhelming. We landed on the moon. There's
2:58:13
a satellite orbiting the moon now called the Lunar Reconnaissance
2:58:17
Orbiter. It's taken pictures of every landing site. And at
2:58:21
the landing sites now, you can see on our landing
2:58:25
site, you can see the descent stage. You can see
2:58:28
the experiments package. You can see the car that we
2:58:31
left up there. And not individual footprints, but you can
2:58:37
see how we had turned up the surface. The moon
2:58:42
on top is sort of a dark white, but when
2:58:47
you flip it over, it's not radiated and it's real
2:58:50
bright white. Yeah. And so you can see that in
2:58:53
the pictures and in every Apollo landing site, they've got
2:58:57
pictures like that. And so we've got 600 pounds of
2:59:02
moon rocks that are totally different from Earth rocks. And
2:59:09
we've got experiments that we left up there that are
2:59:11
experiments. The mirrors. The data for years and years. The
2:59:15
family NASA got so tired of it or either the
2:59:19
batteries went dead that they just shut them down. And
2:59:22
so there's no question that we went to the moon.
2:59:26
And there were six landings. No question. And we even
2:59:32
one landing. Yeah. not Neil, but it was the next
2:59:38
one, they landed right next to the surveyor. They took
2:59:41
pictures of themselves standing there and they whacked off a
2:59:45
piece of it. And so the elements, I don't see
2:59:49
how you can deny the moon landings. But people are
2:59:54
always looking. You know how it is. People are always
2:59:56
like, we can move on from that. I'm just curious
2:59:58
to get your reaction to it.
3:00:00
Because I've never gotten to ask anybody who's been to
3:00:01
the moon what they think of. That was good. There
3:00:03
you go. I've never heard that guy, though. That's good.
3:00:06
That's good. I like it. I like it. Okay. Was
3:00:10
that your second half, Matt? I appreciate it. That was
3:00:12
my second half. Oh, I do have a tip of
3:00:14
the day. And that's why we're going to end the
3:00:17
show with Matt's tip of the day. Okay. There we
3:00:26
go. My tip of the day, real simple and easy,
3:00:33
acetone. Acetone. Acetone. Acetone is the most amazing cleanup. This
3:00:41
is this is one that John did cleaning. He had
3:00:45
all kinds of cleaning products. Well, this one's real specific.
3:00:50
I first discovered it when... I don't throw anything away.
3:00:53
You were trying to clean your fingernails? That's right. First
3:00:57
of all, I'll get to the fingernail polish. But the
3:01:00
whiteboards. Now, I'm sure nobody... Does anybody even use whiteboards
3:01:06
anymore? Check the calendar, dude. Okay. Well... That's why I
3:01:13
pull them out of the dumpster. You know, people throw
3:01:15
them away because, you know, they'd get marks on them,
3:01:18
and you get that little eraser thing, and it never
3:01:22
quite get them all off, right? Acetone makes them, like,
3:01:27
new. It doesn't burn off some layer or anything. No,
3:01:31
it might burn off some brain cells. Use it under
3:01:33
– Don't sniff it. Use it under well – Ventilated.
3:01:39
Ventilated. There's the word I was looking for. Your wife
3:01:42
will probably – or, well, maybe some of your –
3:01:45
children will uh are buying fingernail polish maneuver which by
3:01:49
the way is about 70 to 80 percent acetone so
3:01:52
they water it down and add a little bit of
3:01:55
perfume to it and you're paying like six or seven
3:01:58
dollars for a four to eight ounce bottle of acetone
3:02:02
you can get a quart and actually the price of
3:02:05
acetone has gone up and I'm wondering if it has
3:02:08
anything to do with the war. Can I drive my
3:02:10
car on acetone? You probably could. You probably could. But
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it's also good for you can restock your wife's fingernail
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polish. Just dilute it a little bit. You know, 20-30%
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dilution. With water? With water, yeah, water. And also So
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my wife won't have stubby fingers, you know, burned off
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by the acetone? Well, that's, yeah. And, you know, if
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you're a penny pincher like me, I did check the
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most recent price on acetone is about $12 a quart.
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I'm living down by the river in a van with
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a quart of acetone and government cheese. Okay. It'll get
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sticker gunk off of stuff. Yeah, that'll be good. So
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if you pull off a sticker, I had a shirt
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that I put my voted sticker to on, and it
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went through the washer. And so it has this oval
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of the I voted is what's left of it. But,
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hey, acetone, a little bit of elbow grease that pops
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right there. try out acetone's amazing it didn't fade the
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color of the rest of the shirt didn't do anything
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to it it'll take it right off it'll clean uh
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coming up christmas time gift time you know yeah i
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hate that i think it's so tacky to see the
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half pulled off sticker on the gift and then you
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try to scrape it off with your fingernail and But
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it's like, no, go get the acetone. And so, yeah,
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I had to come up with some tip of the
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day. I love it. It's an excellent tip of the
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day. Get yourself a quart of acetone, $12. It is
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beautiful. Matt's tip of the day. Great advice for you
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and me. Just the tip with JC. and sometimes Adam.
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Created by Dana Burnetti. Now, before we go, I have
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three ISOs today. So you are going to have to
3:04:03
choose. I'm going to let you choose which one we
3:04:06
use. Are you ready? I'm ready. ISO number one. Everybody
3:04:08
hates journalists. A little muddy. Yeah, a little. Listen to
3:04:13
you like a pro. A little muddy. All right, here's
3:04:15
the next one. Freaking amazing. Rachel Maddow. And then this
3:04:20
one you could have expected. Sparky. Bad sparky. Yeah. I
3:04:25
got to go with the middle one. With Rachel? Yeah.
3:04:28
With Rachel? Freaking amazing. All right. That's what this show
3:04:31
was. Freaking amazing today. It was freaking amazing. I tell
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you, man. It's freaking amazing. Matt, thank you very much,
3:04:38
brother. You are a true gem. A gem. A gem.
3:04:43
thank you sir gem to have you here love having
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you on the show let's see coming up next on
3:04:49
the no agenda stream we have oh Sir Bemrose is
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scheduled we get to do this number 54 perfect You
3:04:57
can hear what I said, what Pastor Jimmy and I
3:05:00
talked about. Thank you, Sir Ben Rose. Matt, thank you,
3:05:03
brother. I appreciate you. I'll see you Saturday at the
3:05:06
big Fredericksburg meet-up. You will. I'm looking forward to it.
3:05:09
One form of me or another. It'll be Ben Franklin,
3:05:12
I'm sure. uh... so thank you all very much remember
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another no agenda show coming up on sunday of course
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we'll have the meetup report from the fredericksburg meetup and
3:05:22
we will continue to deconstruct the media and try and
3:05:25
make sense of your world one end of show makes
3:05:27
the credit wine burgs and at the very end he
3:05:30
said all this is perfect for you so i didn't
3:05:32
even listen to it i just trust them Until Sunday,
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remember us at noaginadonations.com. Adios, mofos. Hooey, hooey. And such.
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